I will sue the Girl Scouts for implying that there are only two genders.
This is not Reddit. Hacker News is a place for respectful discourse.
I find your bi-gender-normative attitude extremely disrespectful.
Girl Scouts file trademark lawsuit as Boy Scouts plan to rename to Scouts BSA
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#42Nothing about the Boy Scouts is really gender specific, beyond their requirement to be male that's set to be amended in February. I don't understand how "Scouts BSA" is a violation of any trademarks that the Girl Scouts might hold. Especially considering the Girl Scouts came after BSA had already been established. If anything I would say that Girl Scouts are encroaching on the BSA's brand identity by calling themselv…
I don't have a strong opinion either way (I'm an Eagle Scout), but the decision to include girls will fundamentally change Scouting.
Guys act differently when around girls. Girls act differently when around guys. This is doubly true for ages 12-17. Whether this is a change for the better or worse is subjective but there is no doubt it is a drastic change.
There is benefit to boys interacting with girls. There is benefit to boys having some time themselves as well.
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#43Re: Girl Scouts file trademark lawsuit as Boy Scouts plan to rename to Scouts BSA
#44This is perfect https://www.reddit.com/r/nottheonion/ material.
I originally thought it was. Then, I realized its Hacker News. Not many jokes float around this area.
Jokes are totes allowed. They just have to be particularly high quality, including civil.
No Beavis and Butthead. A lot of humor is only funny if you are cool with being monstrously ugly about specific topics. That type humor tends to not fly here.
I'm okay with that.
Re: Girl Scouts file trademark lawsuit as Boy Scouts plan to rename to Scouts BSA
#45Nothing about the Boy Scouts is really gender specific, beyond their requirement to be male that's set to be amended in February. I don't understand how "Scouts BSA" is a violation of any trademarks that the Girl Scouts might hold. Especially considering the Girl Scouts came after BSA had already been established. If anything I would say that Girl Scouts are encroaching on the BSA's brand identity by calling themselv…
I don't have a strong opinion either way (I'm an Eagle Scout), but the decision to include girls will fundamentally change Scouting. Guys act differently when around girls. Girls act differently when around guys. This is doubly true for ages 12-17. Whether this is a change for the better or worse is subjective but there is no doubt it is a drastic change. There is benefit to boys interacting with girls. There is bene…
The current plan is that they separate dens by gender.
Re: Girl Scouts file trademark lawsuit as Boy Scouts plan to rename to Scouts BSA
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't have a strong opinion either way (I'm an Eagle Scout), but the decision to include girls will fundamentally change Scouting. Guys act differently when around girls. Girls act differently when around guys. This is doubly true for ages 12-17. Whether this is a change for the better or worse is subjective but there is no doubt it is a drastic change. There is benefit to boys interacting with girls. There is bene…
The current plan is that they separate dens by gender.
Thanks for that info. I had heard mixed things but only when they had just announced it. I think that’s a good call.
Re: Girl Scouts file trademark lawsuit as Boy Scouts plan to rename to Scouts BSA
#47In many English-speaking countries other than the US (including Canada and UK), the Girl Scouts are actually called Girl Guides - and thus both the (Boy) Scouts and (Girl) Guides could theoretically admit both sexes without name conflicts or confusing names by simply dropping the references to boys and girls in their names. For example, the British Boy Scouts organization is simply the "Scout Association" and has adm…
They specifically chose the name "Scouts BSA" because changing the name from "Boy Scouts of America" would effectively require an act of congress. BSA were given a special legal status WAY beyond what normal copyright law allows, and so a "simple" name change becomes not so "simple" after all, unfortunately. In fact, this copyright law is so powerful, during the court case Wrenn v. BSA from 2008, in which the court f…
Point of Clarification: The program name where youth can earn Eagle is now called Scouts BSA, the organization name still remains Boy Scouts of America.
The Boy Scouts of America has allowed girls in their other programs since the 1970s.
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't have a strong opinion either way (I'm an Eagle Scout), but the decision to include girls will fundamentally change Scouting. Guys act differently when around girls. Girls act differently when around guys. This is doubly true for ages 12-17. Whether this is a change for the better or worse is subjective but there is no doubt it is a drastic change. There is benefit to boys interacting with girls. There is bene…
The current plan is that they separate dens by gender.
That's for Cub Scouts. For Scouts BSA, the current plan is to have boy-only troops and girl-only troops. They can share the same troop number, committee, budget, etc, but only the Scoutmaster has to be different.
I foresee that changing or troops taking initiative and organizing differently unofficially, but that's the current plan.
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#49According to an article in Time[1] 'The Girl Scouts seek a court order blocking the Boy Scouts from using the term “Scout,” “Scouts,” “Scouting,” or “Scouts BSA” without an “inherently distinctive or distinguishing term appearing immediately before it.”' How is the word scout not considered to be a generic trademark type word at this point and in this context? Does anyone not see this as a silly, frivolous argument?…
In the context of youth leadership development, "Scout" can be trademarked. Just like "Apple"—in the context of computers, phones, etc.—is owned by the Mac and iPhone company. Are there any other organizations that use "Scout" in their name, besides BSA and GSUSA?
Yes, lots.
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#50I am the Cubmaster of a large Cub Scout pack (>150 kids). Admitting girls has been a non-issue, except to local Girl Scouts USA activists (long story, and it wasn't pretty). Girls have always been in Boy Scouts: sisters have ALWAYS been coming to meetings. Now they get to earn badges, too. My son still picks boogers and giggles at farts even with girls around.
This lawsuit is but the latest in GSUSA's petty-ness. I don't want to harm local Girl Scout troops, so we've been laying low at recruiting girls at schools with GSUSA presence. But my patience with GSUSA is running thin.