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Girl Scouts file trademark lawsuit as Boy Scouts plan to rename to Scouts BSA

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Re: Girl Scouts file trademark lawsuit as Boy Scouts plan to rename to Scouts BSA

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One of them should have just bought the other.

The Girl Scouts have zero interest in buying the Boy Scouts, and the Boy Scouts likely wouldn't be able to come close to buying the cookie empire.

IDK how much Boy Scouts is worth, but they raise and spend a ton. CEO of the non-profit has a $1.6m salary.

Re: Girl Scouts file trademark lawsuit as Boy Scouts plan to rename to Scouts BSA

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According to an article in Time[1] 'The Girl Scouts seek a court order blocking the Boy Scouts from using the term “Scout,” “Scouts,” “Scouting,” or “Scouts BSA” without an “inherently distinctive or distinguishing term appearing immediately before it.”' How is the word scout not considered to be a generic trademark type word at this point and in this context? Does anyone not see this as a silly, frivolous argument?…

In this context the is now a risk of confusing products. You can still release products with the word "scout" in it on contexts where there is no danger of confusion by consumers. So you could still have a car called "scout" without these two orgs suing you

Re: Girl Scouts file trademark lawsuit as Boy Scouts plan to rename to Scouts BSA

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One of them should have just bought the other.

The Girl Scouts have zero interest in buying the Boy Scouts, and the Boy Scouts likely wouldn't be able to come close to buying the cookie empire.

Yeah, there is a lot of potential liability for little upside with the Boy Scouts. It's up there with buying a Catholic dioceses...

Re: Girl Scouts file trademark lawsuit as Boy Scouts plan to rename to Scouts BSA

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According to an article in Time[1] 'The Girl Scouts seek a court order blocking the Boy Scouts from using the term “Scout,” “Scouts,” “Scouting,” or “Scouts BSA” without an “inherently distinctive or distinguishing term appearing immediately before it.”' How is the word scout not considered to be a generic trademark type word at this point and in this context? Does anyone not see this as a silly, frivolous argument?…

In the context of youth leadership development, "Scout" can be trademarked. Just like "Apple"—in the context of computers, phones, etc.—is owned by the Mac and iPhone company.

Are there any other organizations that use "Scout" in their name, besides BSA and GSUSA?

Re: Girl Scouts file trademark lawsuit as Boy Scouts plan to rename to Scouts BSA

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In many English-speaking countries other than the US (including Canada and UK), the Girl Scouts are actually called Girl Guides - and thus both the (Boy) Scouts and (Girl) Guides could theoretically admit both sexes without name conflicts or confusing names by simply dropping the references to boys and girls in their names. For example, the British Boy Scouts organization is simply the "Scout Association" and has adm…

They specifically chose the name "Scouts BSA" because changing the name from "Boy Scouts of America" would effectively require an act of congress. BSA were given a special legal status WAY beyond what normal copyright law allows, and so a "simple" name change becomes not so "simple" after all, unfortunately.

In fact, this copyright law is so powerful, during the court case Wrenn v. BSA from 2008, in which the court flat out said:

"BSA need not demonstrate the likelihood of confusion because it has been granted special protection by Congressional charter"

(link to law: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/36/30905)

Re: Girl Scouts file trademark lawsuit as Boy Scouts plan to rename to Scouts BSA

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Girl Scouts have zero interest in buying the Boy Scouts, and the Boy Scouts likely wouldn't be able to come close to buying the cookie empire.

IDK how much Boy Scouts is worth, but they raise and spend a ton. CEO of the non-profit has a $1.6m salary.

A business that uses free child labor to sell cookies with massive margins cannot be cheap..
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