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Re: Amazon Plans to Split HQ2 Evenly Between Two Cities

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Post by yourbandsucks » Mon, Nov 05, 2018, 9:07 PM UTC

bradchris wrote: post #61

chrisco255 wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ft. Worth, right next door, is not though. I don't see this happening, by the way. Abbott is up by 15-20 points in the polls this year. And Texas is just different, culturally, than these other states. You can have your LGBTQ anti-discrimination and TX still remain red, BTW. They're not mutually exclusive.

Fort Worth is the largest non-Democratic city in all of the US, yes, but if you also look at every election you can see it too is turning bluer and bluer. Also, the government race is not a good indicator. Lupe Valdez has made mistake after mistake in her campaign — I’m liberal, and even I wasn’t enthusiastic about voting for her. She’s doing so bad that she’s polling less than the percentage of registered Democrats…

Nobody knows their history, they're just chasing the quick dopamine fix.

Which state did the only President to pass a civil rights bill since the civil war come from? And he passed 3 of them! 3-0 vs the field.

Re: Amazon Plans to Split HQ2 Evenly Between Two Cities

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Post by johan_larson » Mon, Nov 05, 2018, 9:08 PM UTC

filereaper wrote: post #78

Can't speak for the other cities but there's been a steady expansion of Amazon in Toronto. I suspect in the end they'll keep expanding in a quiet and steady pace while never officially declaring a "HQ2" at all whilst the cities feud over who gets the title and keep handing out incentives.

You'd think the low salaries and easy immigration would have put TO over the top.

Re: Amazon Plans to Split HQ2 Evenly Between Two Cities

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Post by kc10 » Mon, Nov 05, 2018, 9:08 PM UTC

Would it be HQ2 and HQ3? or HQ2.1 and HQ2.2? I hope they don't end up like a hydra with 9 heads.

The whole HQ thing doesn't make any sense. It's just another office location.

Re: Amazon Plans to Split HQ2 Evenly Between Two Cities

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Post by cwkoss » Mon, Nov 05, 2018, 9:11 PM UTC

kc10 wrote: post #83

Would it be HQ2 and HQ3? or HQ2.1 and HQ2.2? I hope they don't end up like a hydra with 9 heads. The whole HQ thing doesn't make any sense. It's just another office location.

If my experience with AWS has taught me anything, I'm sure someone will choose a clear and unambiguous acronym.

Re: Amazon Plans to Split HQ2 Evenly Between Two Cities

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Post by johan_larson » Mon, Nov 05, 2018, 9:11 PM UTC

randyrand wrote: post #73

dpflan wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect you are correct; this is a way to make the two cities compete to please / to accommodate / to benefit Amazon and get the headlines that they are Amazon's choice for X, Y, Z reason. Amazon's gravity is quite strong, and its tactics very honed.

I wish all cities competed for residents in this way. I think it would drastically improve our government if there was an actually significant risk of people leaving when the government messed up.

It has happened. Remember White Flight?

Re: Amazon Plans to Split HQ2 Evenly Between Two Cities

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Post by filereaper » Mon, Nov 05, 2018, 9:14 PM UTC

johan_larson wrote: post #82

filereaper wrote: post #78

Can't speak for the other cities but there's been a steady expansion of Amazon in Toronto. I suspect in the end they'll keep expanding in a quiet and steady pace while never officially declaring a "HQ2" at all whilst the cities feud over who gets the title and keep handing out incentives.

You'd think the low salaries and easy immigration would have put TO over the top.

IIRC there was some concern that HQ2 should be on American soil or withstand the backlash of the current political climate.

Re: Amazon Plans to Split HQ2 Evenly Between Two Cities

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Post by philsnow » Mon, Nov 05, 2018, 9:14 PM UTC

mxuribe wrote: post #69

oh-kumudo wrote: post #39

This drama is getting ridiculous. HQ2-1, and HQ2-2? What does HQ even mean then? Even if they are called HQ, it is hard for me to imagine they can function as one.

Sure, some business have multiple "HQs"...in that they split where some of their major divisions are "headquartered". For example, maybe the original HQ in Seattle is where Jeff B. sits, but maybe the crystal city HQ (if that's one of them) is where AWS - as a business/major division - is "headquartered", etc. Oh, and i would venture a guess that they likely will name them something like HQ1, HQ-East-1, HQ-West-1, HQ…

with certain AMZN HQ services[0] only available in HQ1 / HQ-NorthWest-1

[0] like AMZN GetPromoted or AMZN WorkOnTheProjectYouWant

Re: Amazon Plans to Split HQ2 Evenly Between Two Cities

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Post by sauwan » Mon, Nov 05, 2018, 9:15 PM UTC

standerman wrote: post #79

dmode wrote: post #56

Amazon is playing cities like chump. I had a sense in the beginning of this process that Amazon doesn’t really want to build a HQ2. They just want to open another office. Most large tech companies have large campuses across multiple cities. This exercise is no different than that. But Bezos branded it HQ2 to maximize handout. I also predict that they will end up hiring far less than the 25k projected. There is a rece…

"There is a recession coming in the near future, which could result in Amazon looking for cheaper developers globally." It's dangerous to post speculative things with such certainty. The future is never guaranteed.

Well, I don't think it's speculative to say that a recession is coming. Predicting exactly when is hard, but isn't it a near virtual certainty that it will happen?

Re: Amazon Plans to Split HQ2 Evenly Between Two Cities

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Post by linkerzx » Mon, Nov 05, 2018, 9:16 PM UTC

fipple wrote: post #47

HQ2 was never going to be a true second HQ but now it’s not even going to be close. Cities just fellated Amazon for a satellite office.

Seems like quite a bit more than a satellite office, but not quite close to another HQ. Really curious to see what kind of jobs will end up in these HQ2A and HQ2B.

Re: Amazon Plans to Split HQ2 Evenly Between Two Cities

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Post by woofyman » Mon, Nov 05, 2018, 9:18 PM UTC

monocasa wrote: post #67

adventured wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd place that bet on Northern Virginia as guaranteed and Chicago, Atlanta or Dallas as the other most plausible, with Toronto being a slight possibility since they're going with two. Colorado is nice, but it's nothing compared to the Texas population and economic boom. 28m people in Texas, versus 5m in Colorado. Texas is also building high-speed rail, which will end up linking all of their major cities, an immense b…

It won't be Atlanta. They didn't even hook up public transit to the new Braves stadium because it would, to quote the county commissioner, "attract a certain type of person". The MARTA there is known as Moving Africans Rapidly Through Atlanta by that crowd.

That’s not Atlanta. That’s Cobb county.