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Re: Apple’s Social Network

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Post by ummonk »

cronix wrote: post #143
ethagknight wrote: post #114

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Ha, I'm speaking from Apple's perspective thinking through how they could double in value. I don't think the current method of bills coming from everywhere with different payment requirements is all that great. If this new "middleman" provides value and protects me, then what's the problem? I wouldn't see direct integration with my apple device as a middleman but an endpoint. Furthermore, there are loads of whitelabe…

I think the single biggest thing they could do to get to $2T is build their own search engine, and ditch google completely. I think it's funny how some people (and Apple themselves) always say how Apple is so privacy conscious, while at the same time they made 9 Billion Dollars from Google by using Google as the default search engine in Safari (which most people don't change). So it seems they're willing to sell some…

This is unlikely to happen but I'd certainly like to see it happen, as Duck Duck Go simply does not work as a substitute for me, and I don't know that Bing is any better than Google privacy-wise. If Microsoft can make Bing, Apple can certainly make Apple Search - they have plenty of cash to throw at the problem.

Re: Apple’s Social Network

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Post by cmsj »

bedhead wrote: post #89
snuxoll wrote: post #80

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> They shut down their router business while Ubiquiti (run by a former Apple engineer) has run wild in the networking world and looks primed to completely disrupt Cisco over time. Out of everything you listed this is the one that I don't think Apple is really missing out on, as they were never positioned to be a major player outside the prosumer space which often has needs beyond what Apple was providing. The average…

You're right, one of these things is not like the other. However, I think in the next ten years, Apple will regret having neglected this product category, and Ubiquiti is making inroads into consumer-grade products as well as service providers and enterprise-level networking. I just think it's interesting that Ubiquiti was born out of Apple and was able to turn this into a super interesting and profitable business ev…

Two brief points:

1) Just because the Ubiquiti founder came from Apple, doesn't mean that Apple should be in the quasi-enterprise networking space that Ubiquiti is. Apple's networking gear was always aiming to be simple, plug-and-play hardware for people who don't want to think about networking. That's pretty much the opposite of Ubiquiti's products.

2) When Apple was still doing things like networking, we had a lot of people complaining that their focus was spread too widely, and their core products were suffering.

Re: Apple’s Social Network

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Post by [deleted] »

Yetanfou wrote: post #127
simonh wrote: post #125

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The cognitive dissonance in this post is giving me a headache. You don’t get to be the gatekeeper of what constitutes an open AOSP phone or anything else. If you say AOSP has a better track record than Apple in terms of privacy and security, on what basis do you get to say “except all the AOSP phones with Google services and misc crapware and insecure hacks slapped on by their no name Chinese OEMs?” Those are open to…

The 'open camp' has a better track record than Apple, not 'AOSP'. No cognitive dissonance here, just facts. By the way, if you really want to experience cognitive dissonance contemplate the fact that those same 'Chinese OEMs' produce Apple hardware. Just look at the back of nearly anything branded with that apple, it'll say 'designed in California, made in China' or something similar. Do you still trust that iPhone i…

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Re: Apple’s Social Network

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Post by cmsj »

_2d30 wrote: post #60
sanderjd wrote: post #18

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What is the next big thing that they have missed?

Smart speakers and possibly smart home in general. They won't/haven't missed entirely, but they are quite behind Alphabet and Amazon.

I think that depends how you define "behind". HomeKit has some functionality gaps at the moment, and less hardware supports it, but what it does do, it does tremendously well and with higher security bars than some of the competing technologies.

Re: Apple’s Social Network

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Post by [deleted] »

samatman wrote: post #141
ethagknight wrote: post #118

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Enabling recurring bill pay across the board is inviting overbilling, especially from services you no longer use. There's a reason companies incentivize you with a $5/mo 'green savings' to go autopay e-billing. That is fine if you don't care, some people's time is more valuable than others, but the potential savings gained from reviewing bills before paying is substantial.

This is true if one doesn’t practice basic accounting. Most people don’t, but without it, recurring bills are likely the least of one’s financial issues. This costs me about an hour a month, which I spend noticing the bills I pay rather than paying them by hand.

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Re: Apple’s Social Network

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Post by simonh »

Yetanfou wrote: post #127
simonh wrote: post #125

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The cognitive dissonance in this post is giving me a headache. You don’t get to be the gatekeeper of what constitutes an open AOSP phone or anything else. If you say AOSP has a better track record than Apple in terms of privacy and security, on what basis do you get to say “except all the AOSP phones with Google services and misc crapware and insecure hacks slapped on by their no name Chinese OEMs?” Those are open to…

The 'open camp' has a better track record than Apple, not 'AOSP'. No cognitive dissonance here, just facts. By the way, if you really want to experience cognitive dissonance contemplate the fact that those same 'Chinese OEMs' produce Apple hardware. Just look at the back of nearly anything branded with that apple, it'll say 'designed in California, made in China' or something similar. Do you still trust that iPhone i…

Wow. I rest my case.

Re: Apple’s Social Network

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Post by calgoo »

ryandrake wrote: post #57
xfitm3 wrote: post #31

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I rarely make changes so I don’t see the value here. I have every recurring bill setup to auto pay. If I had to manually pay bills I would go insane.

Interesting. I choose to manually pay all my bills, and avoid monthly subscriptions for things. This allows me to see billing shenanigans as soon as companies attempt them, rather than months later. Comcast just recently raised my bill by 15% or so because that's what they do, and I was able to avoid it before paying it. With auto-pay I would have just kept paying the higher rate. I also try to manually pay everythin…

I dont know how it works where you live, but I can just log onto my bank web page, and reverse the payment if i dont agree with it. Then I can block all charges from that company until i activate it again (or never). All it requires from me is to log on every 2 to 3 days and check the account. That is something you should do anyway to quickly catch any fraud.

Re: Apple’s Social Network

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Post by michaelchisari »

Spooky23 wrote: post #102
smashingfiasco wrote: post #76

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Shared Albums in the Photos app lets you do just that.

Agree, alot of the pieces are there, but Apple has done a not so great job at discovery. That's slowly getting better imo. I use my kid's school as a proxy for the average joe. About 60% of the moms have no idea that Shared Albums exist, and most of them don't really understand how they work. The UI is a little weird.

Apple has done a not so great job at discovery.

Except... maybe they shouldn't? Maybe real life can be the discovery part.

Re: Apple’s Social Network

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Post by simonh »

GeekyBear wrote: post #115
simonh wrote: post #23

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Openness is a pretty old big thing at this point. Apple haven't been open since the Apple II and it's worked out fine for them. Arguably the 'open' camp has missed the current big thing - privacy and security . Yes they are one thing, just with two sides to it.

Given the way Google has walked back the Android platform's "openness" by moving more and more APIs that modern apps require access to into Google Play Services, they are now missing out on security, privacy, and openness.

Right, because being open says nothing about quality, reliability, security, or really anything much at all. What matters is accountability.

If you give your stuff away and third parties hack, abuse, crapify and sell on your stuff with a name associated with you on it, that’s a problem.

It is more open, but it’s more open to abuse much as to anything else.

Re: Apple’s Social Network

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Post by amazingman »

cronix wrote: post #143
ethagknight wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ha, I'm speaking from Apple's perspective thinking through how they could double in value. I don't think the current method of bills coming from everywhere with different payment requirements is all that great. If this new "middleman" provides value and protects me, then what's the problem? I wouldn't see direct integration with my apple device as a middleman but an endpoint. Furthermore, there are loads of whitelabe…

I think the single biggest thing they could do to get to $2T is build their own search engine, and ditch google completely. I think it's funny how some people (and Apple themselves) always say how Apple is so privacy conscious, while at the same time they made 9 Billion Dollars from Google by using Google as the default search engine in Safari (which most people don't change). So it seems they're willing to sell some…

I think we’re seeing Apple asymmetrically addressing this issue, by aggressively seeking to reduce Google’s (or really anyone’s) ability to track individuals via web technologies. At least for users of Safari.
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