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Re: Apple’s Social Network

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Post by deltron3030 »

hbosch wrote: post #126
oflannabhra wrote: post #33

I appreciate that Ben took the time to read between the lines of what Apple has been saying, to tease out how Apple is thinking about Apple. It's clear that's why he has a successful business. This article made me stop and think about Apple's future, and to be honest, the future of computing. I think it is clear that in 10 years mobile computing has reached maturity (which is astounding). There is no broad use-case a…

> However, what surprises me is that Apple is doubling down on performance. The processing capability of iPhones continues to rise, even when we see that the software that uses that capability has diminishing returns. Moving the goal posts on performance, beyond what is reasonably necessary, simply incentivizes and challenges developers to start making bigger and better app experiences. This is a passive form of ecos…

Apple is a bit strange when it comes to creativity tools. They have Final Cut and Logic, both basically major professional production frameworks for film and music, yet they don't have such thing for 3D content, something like a more intuitive Blender, Modo or Cinema 4D, full 3D production suites. Getting into 3D art & design and operating those tools is still quite hard, harder than it should be.

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Post by AsyncAwait »

mbesto wrote: post #110
throwawayinside wrote: post #25

If you are a developer with a SaaS business, be very afraid. Apple is going to do everything possible to collect a 30% tax on your business to fix their growth problem. It’s ironic, really. The company that mastered tax evasion is about to become the world’s most determined tax collector.

Huh? Are you implying that if I create a web app, Apple is going to somehow take 30% of my revenues? How?

Presumably if there's an iOS app for it and users are able to subscribe to your service via the app.

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Post by kodablah »

oflannabhra wrote: post #82
kodablah wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> what regulation forces a company to report how much it sells of X? That's not what was asked. What was asked is if they can just change what they usually report because it looks bad.

Semantics, and the answer is the same. The parent was asking if the SEC could step in, and the only way they could do that is if government regulation has granted them purview and authority to. There is no such regulation.

I read it as asking whether the SEC could step in on misleading information disclosure change, not the information itself.

Re: Apple’s Social Network

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Post by cromwellian »

cronix wrote: post #143
ethagknight wrote: post #114

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Ha, I'm speaking from Apple's perspective thinking through how they could double in value. I don't think the current method of bills coming from everywhere with different payment requirements is all that great. If this new "middleman" provides value and protects me, then what's the problem? I wouldn't see direct integration with my apple device as a middleman but an endpoint. Furthermore, there are loads of whitelabe…

I think the single biggest thing they could do to get to $2T is build their own search engine, and ditch google completely. I think it's funny how some people (and Apple themselves) always say how Apple is so privacy conscious, while at the same time they made 9 Billion Dollars from Google by using Google as the default search engine in Safari (which most people don't change). So it seems they're willing to sell some…

The search engine isn’t the only issue. I mean, the App Store allows Facebook and a bonanza of other privacy violating apps.

Apple to some extent launders responsibility for extremely useful services that require or use personal data by outsourcing it to others.

Why not actually turn iMessage into a privacy preserving social network?

For the same reason, as with search, I think the difficulty is underestimated.

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Post by skj »

tmaly wrote: post #97
ethagknight wrote: post #19

I don’t think he mentioned it, but the easy way for Apple to grow to a $2T company is to get my household, a typical locked-in Apple household with an iPad or iPhone for every person and a computer for each adult and an AppleTV at every TV, to start paying for ever more services through those Apple devices. TV service. Ubiquitous internet service. Financial services like payments but grow into banking. manage all my…

As a parent, I would like to see a better offering of cloud backup for photos and videos. The space on newer IPhones keeps growing with each release. I use something like backblaze on a central computer at $5 a month for unlimited backup. I would like to see Apple compete a little more on this end.

(disclosure: I am a Google SWE, but I don't work on photos)

Google Photos does full res backup - easy to get working with android - not sure about other devices or non-phones.

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Post by clairity »

PavlovsCat wrote: post #146
ethagknight wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ha, I'm speaking from Apple's perspective thinking through how they could double in value. I don't think the current method of bills coming from everywhere with different payment requirements is all that great. If this new "middleman" provides value and protects me, then what's the problem? I wouldn't see direct integration with my apple device as a middleman but an endpoint. Furthermore, there are loads of whitelabe…

> I'm speaking from Apple's perspective But why? It greatly puzzles me how many "consumers" now think in terms of "brands" and dream up and discuss strategies on behalf of them. Companies should concentrate on fleecing customers, and customers should concentrate on not getting fleeced.

as a counterpoint, you need to anticipate the actions of corporations to make rational decisions about how to interact with them.

but in most cases, these musings are forms of armchair quarterbacking, not some brainwashed adoration of a brand.

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Post by rajacombinator »

When you can buy Chinese phones like Oneplus 6 that are just as good as the XS but half the price, the writing is on the wall. Jack up prices, exploit naive customers, and max out those stock options while you still can. Then let the company die by mediocrity again, no Jobs to save you this time.

Re: Apple’s Social Network

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Post by clairity »

basch wrote: post #71
ethagknight wrote: post #19

I don’t think he mentioned it, but the easy way for Apple to grow to a $2T company is to get my household, a typical locked-in Apple household with an iPad or iPhone for every person and a computer for each adult and an AppleTV at every TV, to start paying for ever more services through those Apple devices. TV service. Ubiquitous internet service. Financial services like payments but grow into banking. manage all my…

I completely agree. Apple needs to move into full banking. Mint, 401k Management, Bill Pay, TAXES, Yahoo Finance, Student Loans, the old Manilla (collecting ALL aggregate statements in one place forever.) They should buy Schwab, Envestnet, Personal Capital, YNAB, and Motif and slap a Robinhood/Monzo coat of paint on a new frontend. They could go from Apple Pay to Best Banking Experience in the World, in no time. As f…

this... makes no sense strategically (though i understand your apple fandom). apple is a consumer electronics company. banking is a completely different industry, and a heavily regulated one at that.

apple's move here is to use applepay as a platform to allow other companies to do those things. they're executing that strategy quite competently. they won't (i.e., can't) ever become a bank (consumer, lending, commercial, or any other kind).

(and your overuse of capitalization is making me twitch uncontrollably =)

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Post by TheOtherHobbes »

macintux wrote: post #56
yuy910616 wrote: post #39

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I think an Apple (read integrated, user friendly) solution to internet of things could be more imminent, and interesting. One of the draw back of the current solution for IoT is connecting different eco systems, such as GE light bulb to Amazon Echo. If apple have a solution that is elegant and 'just works', i'd be interested in that

Apple already has a smart home initiative; what am I missing? There were early complaints that Apple was making too many demands on manufacturers with regards to security, but given the utter shitshow that is IoT these days, it sure seems like it was a good idea.

You're missing a range of Apple smart home products - and so is everyone else, because they don't exist.

Apple could have killed it in this space. The development costs would have been relatively low, and there was a wide-open goal with the possibility of much-improved security and privacy, high quality industrial design, AI, and yet more links to Apple devices, as well as providing a home network foundation for future products such as health monitoring devices.

Instead Apple handed the market over to 3rd parties and... not much of interest happened with HomeKit.

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Post by jarsin »

ethagknight wrote: post #19

I don’t think he mentioned it, but the easy way for Apple to grow to a $2T company is to get my household, a typical locked-in Apple household with an iPad or iPhone for every person and a computer for each adult and an AppleTV at every TV, to start paying for ever more services through those Apple devices. TV service. Ubiquitous internet service. Financial services like payments but grow into banking. manage all my…

This is why I have been calling for them to buy SNE. It has everything AAPL needs...all the movie content, music content, Playstation, High Scale TV's, best mobile camera components, etc, etc.

Mr BuyBack Cook could have bought Sony 3 times over already.

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