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Blizzard Says It Wasn't Expecting Fans to Be This Angry About Diablo Immortal

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Re: Blizzard Says It Wasn't Expecting Fans to Be This Angry About Diablo Immortal

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Post by swat535 »

ThrowawayR2 wrote: post #9

Could've been predicted; there was similar backlash against EA for the mobile game that was themed after the old Command & Conquer RTS series: https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-06-10-as-the-interne...

Exactly and then EA caved and started doing damage control on reddit..

https://www.reddit.com/r/commandandconquer/comments/9nbrfm/c...

I think the bigger issue here is that companies are being greedy and want to use their flagship games as marketing to profit on microtransactions (which are very common) in mobile games.

This is what fans are mostly upset about.

Re: Blizzard Says It Wasn't Expecting Fans to Be This Angry About Diablo Immortal

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Post by Izkata »

fileeditview wrote: post #79
pkaye wrote: post #11

Maybe they can make another "head tilted to the left with mouth open" game. https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/8gt6vs/why_yes_i_do...

This made me laugh a lot.. it seems like the icon for Fallout Shelter was changed to look more like the others. They wrote in the patch notes: "Vault-Tec has noticed many overseers prefer game icons with faces screaming to the right. In an effort to raise your enjoyment and thoughtlessly blend in with the crowd, we’ve updated for a limited time. You’re welcome!" (this is from a Reddit comment)

It's also not the Duel Links icon (at least on Android). Totally difference character and facing straight out instead of to the side, though his mouth is slightly open in a yell.

Re: Blizzard Says It Wasn't Expecting Fans to Be This Angry About Diablo Immortal

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Post by jakebasile »

BadassFractal wrote: post #91
bdz wrote: post #12

And Kotaku once again spins the wheel against the players >The explosion of outrage has many on social media discussing the extent to which video game culture enables entitlement. It’s not surprising, after all, that there’s been some pushback on the idea of a mobile Diablo game. What’s shocking here is the sheer amount of molten vitriol that’s pouring in over what seems to be a pretty cut-and-dry situation: A proper…

> Gaming journalism is just terrible trash Any publications out there that might be an exception?

I get my gaming news from the community via Reddit, Twitch, and direct from the developers on Twitter et al. now. I know these too can be manipulated but in general I'm talked down to far less by these sources than by the gaming press at large.

That said, Niche Gamer is alright if you don't mind seeing a lot of anime in their articles. I don't care for anime games as a rule but it doesn't offend me either.

Re: Blizzard Says It Wasn't Expecting Fans to Be This Angry About Diablo Immortal

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Post by dispat0r »

xbmcuser wrote: post #100
Fire-Dragon-DoL wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's your expectation? Blizzard released their games (the Blizzard-specific ones) only for PC for ages. Only recently, they released them on console too. Bet what? ALL their fans are pc gamers. All the 10m people that bought diablo 3 on day one are pc gamers. You know what pc gamers don't like? Pay2win. And any business model that usually runs on mobile that is not buy once (or monthly subscription), because in any…

So Blizzard should not try to diverge and stay with the same fan base that could kill its game and blizzard itself if not well received. Or should they try to diversify and try to gain other customers/fans where 1 failed game would not be it's death?

Blizzard has many IPs every full release would be a success. Also there is no problem with diversifying, just don't announce it at Blizzcon as the only news to that IP. They should have presented this and then tease D4 nobody would have complained.

Re: Blizzard Says It Wasn't Expecting Fans to Be This Angry About Diablo Immortal

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Post by dispat0r »

navbaker wrote: post #63
UncleMeat wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But hearthstone exists. This is clear evidence that some portion of the community does care about mobile games at blizzcon.

The mobile version of hearthstone came long after the pc version.

And a TCG is much easier todo on mobile without sacrificing game depth. Diablo 3 wasn't even very deep but you couldn't port that to mobile because the controls just don't work like that.

Re: Blizzard Says It Wasn't Expecting Fans to Be This Angry About Diablo Immortal

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Post by zaarn »

BoiledCabbage wrote: post #72
jakebasile wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're mystified by it because you probably aren't a dedicated gamer. To lots of people, including myself, gaming is a huge part of their identity and lifestyle. It's a hobby like any other such as repairing old cars, painting, craft beer, etc. The "but climate change" is just whataboutism because gaming isn't important to you, so why aren't people paying more attention to what is important to you. edit to clarify: T…

> It's a hobby like any other such as repairing old cars, painting, craft beer, etc. And yet you don't see people who follow those hobbies throwing an absolute fit like gamers are now doing continuously.

I regularly observe people flipping out because a corporation changed the license of a product to allow them to get more profit and more people being angry about the choice of webbrowser or whitespace character.

Re: Blizzard Says It Wasn't Expecting Fans to Be This Angry About Diablo Immortal

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Post by Raglov »

navbaker wrote: post #63
UncleMeat wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But hearthstone exists. This is clear evidence that some portion of the community does care about mobile games at blizzcon.

The mobile version of hearthstone came long after the pc version.

Nonsense. One month after the official release: Windows, macOS — March 11, 2014; iOS — April 16, 2014.

Re: Blizzard Says It Wasn't Expecting Fans to Be This Angry About Diablo Immortal

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Post by tomjen3 »

BoiledCabbage wrote: post #72
jakebasile wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're mystified by it because you probably aren't a dedicated gamer. To lots of people, including myself, gaming is a huge part of their identity and lifestyle. It's a hobby like any other such as repairing old cars, painting, craft beer, etc. The "but climate change" is just whataboutism because gaming isn't important to you, so why aren't people paying more attention to what is important to you. edit to clarify: T…

> It's a hobby like any other such as repairing old cars, painting, craft beer, etc. And yet you don't see people who follow those hobbies throwing an absolute fit like gamers are now doing continuously.

Maybe they are not online to the same extend?

Because emacs-vs-vim used to a flame-war guarantee, and the stupid thing is that nobody is impacted by another persons text-editor, unless they are sharing a computer that can't have both installed (so anything with more than 30mb hd)

Re: Blizzard Says It Wasn't Expecting Fans to Be This Angry About Diablo Immortal

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Post by tombert »

pcwalton wrote: post #19
malvosenior wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The vitriol expressed by the gaming press against fans far exceeds the gamers anger. Gamers: "Is this a joke? We don't want mobile Diablo" Game Press: "Gamers are whiny, entitled, toxic babies" You can see it here for yourself: https://i.redd.it/6mgpttba94w11.jpg It's been this way for a long time and was the reason Gamergate became a thing (see "Gamers are Dead"). The worst part is that because the journalists in th…

"GamerGate" was "a thing" because of disgusting, and deeply held, misogyny within the gaming community. The reason why every legitimate press outlet covered "GamerGate" from the standpoint of a harassment campaign against women is because that is precisely what it was.

I'll admit I can't really atone for my sins on this, but I genuinely thought GamerGate was about journalistic integrity in gaming journalism. I didn't take place in any of the elaborate social-media campaigns, but I did use the term in some kind of naive attempt at "fighting the SJWs".

I realize how stupid I was at that point, and while I don't think I went "full-on-mysogyny", I was definitely holding a somewhat dated viewpoint which I regret now.

Re: Blizzard Says It Wasn't Expecting Fans to Be This Angry About Diablo Immortal

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Post by forgottenpass »

bdz wrote: post #12

And Kotaku once again spins the wheel against the players >The explosion of outrage has many on social media discussing the extent to which video game culture enables entitlement. It’s not surprising, after all, that there’s been some pushback on the idea of a mobile Diablo game. What’s shocking here is the sheer amount of molten vitriol that’s pouring in over what seems to be a pretty cut-and-dry situation: A proper…

I expect randos on the internet to act like trash (if for no other reason, a chunk of the people acting like 12 year olds really are 12).

I don't understand why the response from people that should know better is to act surprised at them, and feel justified in stooping to such low levels and pettiness themselves.

Well, I guess I can make guesses as to the "why," but none of them are answers that would let me sleep well at night if I were the one doing it. Maybe the sleep deprivation is why they're so cranky.

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