There is no "prostitution problem", other than meddling moralizers who want to tell people what they can do with their own bodies. Legalize prostitution, get the government out of the business of trying to control people's bodies, and the "problem" goes away.
On mobile so I'll having trouble finding a source, but studies have unfortunately found that countries with legalized prostitution generally have higher trafficking rates.
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#22I live about three miles west of Western between Hollywood and Sunset, a couple of blocks from where Hugh Grant was arrested in 1995. We still have these signs up here, I can’t turn onto my street after 11pm. What I find interesting is that these signs are still up even though the problem they were trying to solve went away many years ago. It seems that there’s nobody that looks to undo changes like this—government r…
Re: LA Is Trying to Fix Its Prostitution Problem by Banning Right Turns at Night
#23So the signs are there so that the police have probable cause to stop someone that they otherwise wouldn't have probable cause to stop. Does anyone else see a problem with making otherwise perfectly legal and safe behavior(turning on to a side street) illegal just to legalize an otherwise unconstitutional traffic stop? Seems like another slippery slope we ought not to be sliding down.
The government is required to respect privacy, not to be stupid. An area's status as a crime hotspot can reasonably cast suspicion on those visiting it late at night.
There's absolutely no requirement to 'respect privacy.'
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not clear to me how having more women CEOs will help solve the horrors of prostutution, perhaps you could explain further.
Women frequently turn to prostitution, stripping et al because it's the only well paid work they can readily get. If career success in other fields were easier to access for women, it would be easier to make other choices.
The problem is more likely that the skills they have do not qualify them for well paying jobs.
Re: LA Is Trying to Fix Its Prostitution Problem by Banning Right Turns at Night
#25There is no "prostitution problem", other than meddling moralizers who want to tell people what they can do with their own bodies. Legalize prostitution, get the government out of the business of trying to control people's bodies, and the "problem" goes away.
On the addiction relief program "Intervention" they showed a woman who said that she had to inject heroin immediately before this type of work to make it tolerable, and she also said that she found most disgusting to her was that she had to pretend to enjoy what the clients did to her.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
The government is required to respect privacy, not to be stupid. An area's status as a crime hotspot can reasonably cast suspicion on those visiting it late at night.
> The government is required to respect privacy, not to be stupid There's absolutely no requirement to 'respect privacy.'
Re: LA Is Trying to Fix Its Prostitution Problem by Banning Right Turns at Night
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not clear to me how having more women CEOs will help solve the horrors of prostutution, perhaps you could explain further.
Women frequently turn to prostitution, stripping et al because it's the only well paid work they can readily get. If career success in other fields were easier to access for women, it would be easier to make other choices.
Women frequently turn to prostitution because it pays extremely well, too.
Unemployment is 3.7%. Anyone remotely employable can get a job today, but especially women.
Women made up ~47% of the workforce in 2017 and are on track to hold more jobs than men in a few years, even with a lower participation rate.
Female unemployment rate trended significantly lower than male unemployment rate during the last recession.
Women are the majority on college campuses, and earn a majority of bachelors, masters, and doctorate degrees.
Women are paid the same for the same work, when they choose to focus on their careers as much as men are expected to. And women hold special legal status to take leave to have children (there is no Federal paternity leave in the US, however some states offer it).
Career success has never been more achievable for women in particular. Inside and outside the specific field of prostitution.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
On mobile so I'll having trouble finding a source, but studies have unfortunately found that countries with legalized prostitution generally have higher trafficking rates.
Here you go: https://orgs.law.harvard.edu/lids/2014/06/12/does-legalized-... "Countries with legalized prostitution are associated with higher human trafficking inflows than countries where prostitution is prohibited. The scale effect of legalizing prostitution, i.e. expansion of the market, outweighs the substitution effect, where legal sex workers are favored over illegal workers. On average, countries with legaliz…
Apparently it's a hard problem to solve. Prostitution is legal in Germany, but still far from "accepted" as regular work.
There are attempts at having the workers register themselves plus regular check ups (which they're not too keen on, because when the political landscape changes, being part of some database isn't a good thing. Plus, being in a database might expose their line of work that they normally don't point a spotlight on in their regular life), at requiring their customers to report suspect cases (but not all customers are interested in having their pastime exposed like that, and also how are they supposed to detect these?).
Every attempt at a solution (without guarantee of success) creates new problems because it's a volatile environment all around.
Illegal workers being immigrants, they are unfamiliar with the law, at risk of deportation (so the protections legal workers theoretically have don't apply to them in whole), and they're also not very keen on their families learning how they made the money that was sent back every month (no, it wasn't by waiting tables). Also, with mafia-like structures trafficking them, blowing the whistle might reduce life expectation for them and their families back home. There's little room for them to help themselves once in the situation.
Re: LA Is Trying to Fix Its Prostitution Problem by Banning Right Turns at Night
#29So the signs are there so that the police have probable cause to stop someone that they otherwise wouldn't have probable cause to stop. Does anyone else see a problem with making otherwise perfectly legal and safe behavior(turning on to a side street) illegal just to legalize an otherwise unconstitutional traffic stop? Seems like another slippery slope we ought not to be sliding down.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Women frequently turn to prostitution, stripping et al because it's the only well paid work they can readily get. If career success in other fields were easier to access for women, it would be easier to make other choices.
Somehow I doubt most prostitutes turn to doing tricks because they had poor career advancement options. The problem is more likely that the skills they have do not qualify them for well paying jobs.
As a man, many of my first jobs I got simply because the boss thought I was a promising PFY and was convinced I'd learn everything I needed within the first few days. It's a double standard.