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Family traumatized after Nest system hacked by stranger

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Re: Family traumatized after Nest system hacked by stranger

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Post by paulcole »

Cynddl wrote: post #2

> Sorry, this content is not available in your region. I guess Fox 4 KC didn't want to implement the GDPR… But what happens with the GDPR if I, a European citizen in Europe, access this website (blocking EU IP addresses) using a VPN? The heuristic they use (IP address = country on which the user lives) is not a perfect method to assess whether they need to apply the GDPR regulation.

> I guess Fox 4 KC didn't want to implement the GDPR

I think the content you're seeing, "Sorry, this content is not available in your region." is an implementation of GDPR compliance, no?

Re: Family traumatized after Nest system hacked by stranger

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Post by smt88 »

rashomon wrote: post #7

How is poor password security "hacking"? If you choose to use the same password on all of your devices then that is solely on you.

Legally, it is hacking.

I remember a story about someone getting an absurdly long prison sentence for guessing a simple password to a secure system.

Hacking only specifies the knowing and intentional circumvention of an authorization system. It doesn't place a value on how easy it was to do it.

Re: Family traumatized after Nest system hacked by stranger

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Post by mellow-lake-day »

> A Nest spokesperson responded to our request for comment and issued this statement:

> "We have seen instances where a small number of Nest customers have re-used passwords that were previously exposed through breaches on other websites, and made public. None of these breaches involved Nest.

It's surprising how many people reuse their password or use unsafe passwords. Including my own family.

Re: Family traumatized after Nest system hacked by stranger

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Post by adventured »

Cynddl wrote: post #2

> Sorry, this content is not available in your region. I guess Fox 4 KC didn't want to implement the GDPR… But what happens with the GDPR if I, a European citizen in Europe, access this website (blocking EU IP addresses) using a VPN? The heuristic they use (IP address = country on which the user lives) is not a perfect method to assess whether they need to apply the GDPR regulation.

> But what happens with the GDPR if I, a European citizen in Europe, access this website (blocking EU IP addresses) using a VPN?

WDAF Kansas City, is a Fox affiliate located out of Missouri state.

GDPR is an EU regulation, not a global regulation, nor a US regulation. The EU and GDPR has no legal standing over most media companies in the US and very few US Web sites, because they do no business in the EU and are not bound by EU laws. It does not matter if you're an European citizen in Europe or not, if GDPR does not apply to the owner of the server you're accessing.

If I - an American citizen - access a server in China, US laws are not what govern what they can do with my information. That is governed by Chinese law.

Re: Family traumatized after Nest system hacked by stranger

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Post by izzydata »

rashomon wrote: post #7

How is poor password security "hacking"? If you choose to use the same password on all of your devices then that is solely on you.

People seem to have adopted the term "hacking" to imply any and all unwanted access to a device or system. As far as I recall it meant that a device or system was modified in a way that was not originally intended. Logging in with the password is an intended use-case of the device, therefore not hacking in my opinion.

Re: Family traumatized after Nest system hacked by stranger

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Post by pdpi »

rashomon wrote: post #7

How is poor password security "hacking"? If you choose to use the same password on all of your devices then that is solely on you.

I think we’re long past the point where “hacking” in this sense has any sort of connotation of skill (and that is probably for the best). “Hack” is just a more colloquial synonym for “compromise”.

Re: Family traumatized after Nest system hacked by stranger

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Post by hsk823 »

mellow-lake-day wrote: post #14

> A Nest spokesperson responded to our request for comment and issued this statement: > "We have seen instances where a small number of Nest customers have re-used passwords that were previously exposed through breaches on other websites, and made public. None of these breaches involved Nest. It's surprising how many people reuse their password or use unsafe passwords. Including my own family.

It's the opposite of surprising, that's exactly how most accounts get compromised.

Re: Family traumatized after Nest system hacked by stranger

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Post by jonathankoren »

mellow-lake-day wrote: post #14

> A Nest spokesperson responded to our request for comment and issued this statement: > "We have seen instances where a small number of Nest customers have re-used passwords that were previously exposed through breaches on other websites, and made public. None of these breaches involved Nest. It's surprising how many people reuse their password or use unsafe passwords. Including my own family.

Not really. I have unique passwords everywhere, but I basically only have two PINs.
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