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Family traumatized after Nest system hacked by stranger

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Re: Family traumatized after Nest system hacked by stranger

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> Sorry, this content is not available in your region.

I guess Fox 4 KC didn't want to implement the GDPR… But what happens with the GDPR if I, a European citizen in Europe, access this website (blocking EU IP addresses) using a VPN?

The heuristic they use (IP address = country on which the user lives) is not a perfect method to assess whether they need to apply the GDPR regulation.

Re: Family traumatized after Nest system hacked by stranger

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post #2

> Sorry, this content is not available in your region. I guess Fox 4 KC didn't want to implement the GDPR… But what happens with the GDPR if I, a European citizen in Europe, access this website (blocking EU IP addresses) using a VPN? The heuristic they use (IP address = country on which the user lives) is not a perfect method to assess whether they need to apply the GDPR regulation.

Strangely, it does not work using archive.is either.

But I think this is the same event: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6338113/Familys-Nes...

Re: Family traumatized after Nest system hacked by stranger

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post #2

> Sorry, this content is not available in your region. I guess Fox 4 KC didn't want to implement the GDPR… But what happens with the GDPR if I, a European citizen in Europe, access this website (blocking EU IP addresses) using a VPN? The heuristic they use (IP address = country on which the user lives) is not a perfect method to assess whether they need to apply the GDPR regulation.

Article text:

LONG ISLAND, N.Y. -- A mother in Long Island says a stranger hacked her family’s Nest camera and tried having a conversation with her five-year-old son, according to WPIX.

Nest ads will show you beautiful images of mother nature captured on their outdoor cameras, life’s silly moments and even those moments when your child is up to no good. But for this Long Island mother, the Nest cam she and her husband set up around their home to act as a nanny cam became a full-on nightmare.

“My son came running out of the playroom and found me in the kitchen and said 'it’s not daddy talking to me. It’s not daddy.'”

Nearly every day, after school, this mother, who asked PIX11 to hide her identity, said her 5-year-old son chats with her husband through the Nest cam, a home monitoring system users can connect through their cell phones. This time, however, it was a complete stranger on the other end.

“He asked my son if he took the school bus home and he was asking him about the toys he was playing with and when my son said 'mommy, mommy,' he told him to shut up,” she recalled.

When she walked into her child’s playroom, the ominous voice addressed her directly.

Now she is frightened and wonders how long a complete stranger was watching her family. Since this frightening violation, this mother called police, who, while sympathetic, said there was little they could do.

As for Nest? She was simply told to change her password and switch to a two-factor verification when logging on, but for this mom it’s not enough. She wants to speak out to warn others about this potential danger lurking in their home.

A Nest spokesperson responded to our request for comment and issued this statement:

"We have seen instances where a small number of Nest customers have re-used passwords that were previously exposed through breaches on other websites, and made public. None of these breaches involved Nest. This exposes these customers to other people using the credentials to log into their Nest account. We are proactively alerting affected customers to reset their passwords and set up two-factor authentication, which adds another layer of account security. Customers can reach out to Nest customer support with questions or report anything suspicious to security@nest.com."

Re: Family traumatized after Nest system hacked by stranger

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post #2

> Sorry, this content is not available in your region. I guess Fox 4 KC didn't want to implement the GDPR… But what happens with the GDPR if I, a European citizen in Europe, access this website (blocking EU IP addresses) using a VPN? The heuristic they use (IP address = country on which the user lives) is not a perfect method to assess whether they need to apply the GDPR regulation.

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Re: Family traumatized after Nest system hacked by stranger

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post #2

> Sorry, this content is not available in your region. I guess Fox 4 KC didn't want to implement the GDPR… But what happens with the GDPR if I, a European citizen in Europe, access this website (blocking EU IP addresses) using a VPN? The heuristic they use (IP address = country on which the user lives) is not a perfect method to assess whether they need to apply the GDPR regulation.

Easier than vpn: prefix the website with outline.com/

Re: Family traumatized after Nest system hacked by stranger

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post #2

> Sorry, this content is not available in your region. I guess Fox 4 KC didn't want to implement the GDPR… But what happens with the GDPR if I, a European citizen in Europe, access this website (blocking EU IP addresses) using a VPN? The heuristic they use (IP address = country on which the user lives) is not a perfect method to assess whether they need to apply the GDPR regulation.

For the most part it forms a clear statement that the site operator does not wish to deal with EU clients.

So, yeah, if the odd EU-based client like me decides to VPN/Tor their way in, then legal action against the site operators for not dealing with my data appropriately shouldn't stand up.

Just a guess. IANAL.

Re: Family traumatized after Nest system hacked by stranger

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post #2

> Sorry, this content is not available in your region. I guess Fox 4 KC didn't want to implement the GDPR… But what happens with the GDPR if I, a European citizen in Europe, access this website (blocking EU IP addresses) using a VPN? The heuristic they use (IP address = country on which the user lives) is not a perfect method to assess whether they need to apply the GDPR regulation.

Is there a better heuristic they could use? Outside of of using HTML5 Geolocation APIs, there's not much else they could do.

Re: Family traumatized after Nest system hacked by stranger

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The big takeaway here is that grown humans are mindlessly putting technology they don't understand in front of their children, and then they're blaming the technology for their own ignorance.

Alright, maybe I'm being a little extreme or cynical, and my goal here isn't victim blaming, clearly this sort of thing should not have to be a concern for people, but still... Don't they have a duty to understand what they're exposing their children to? Then again I've been tech savvy since I was like 11 years old (23 now) so maybe it's just easy for me to say. I just can't comprehend simultaneously having children and not understanding technology.

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