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Re: iPad Pro

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Post by chipotle_coyote »

michaelmrose wrote: post #599
chipotle_coyote wrote: post #560

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I'm aware the jailbreak community often felt Apple was targeting them specifically, and perhaps they were, but every jailbreak was also exposing a security flaw. Personally, I've never been worried about jailbreaking voiding my warranty -- I just never got sufficient value from it to make it worth the drawbacks. (Both value and drawbacks are subjective measures, obviously.) While I understand the "you must own your o…

Letting the user control the device inevitably means letting the user hurt themselves that is inevitable and impossible to fix. The least intrusive method is too allow users to add additional software sources and either opt out of sandboxing wholly or totally for select vetted apps. This isnt hard it would just hurt Apples ability to get a 30% cut as third party stores would spring up. User owned personal computing d…

The comment of yours that I replied to explicitly mentioned jailbreaking, which is not the same thing as "additional software sources." I'd like to see Apple allow users to install signed apps from places other than the App Store, and I suspect that protecting revenue is the main reason they don't. But I'm not particularly interested in jailbreaking, even though I'd like to see functionality that iOS doesn't currently allow.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by killerdhmo »

beenBoutIT wrote: post #629
j45 wrote: post #587

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All that horsepower, no accurate steering wheel. Is it a pro device if the choice to add a mouse isn't there? Many pros work in pixel accurate selection instead of pencil or finger.

It's a "Pro" device because Apple used a flimsy keyboard that doesn't allow the possibility of actual lap-top use.

You can buy other keyboards... it's the specs that make it Pro.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by conradev »

spurcell93 wrote: post #506
playpause wrote: post #494

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Why do you prefer Lightning to USB-C? Just curious.

I prefer it because it feels way better. The snap, and the way the plug feels secure in the socket.... I had a nexus 6p for a year and the plug was so damn unreliable and wiggly. Bought multiple different types but they were all bad. That said, I haven't used any Apple devices with USBC and I would not be surprised if they felt much better.

I agree. I will often knock out the USB-C cable from my MacBook when it's on my lap causing it to stop charging, whereas I can hang my phone from a lightning cable.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by jjtheblunt »

pkulak wrote: post #555
RubberShoes wrote: post #443

To me, the shift to USB-C signifies a fundamental change in how Apple is approaching the iPad and computing going forward. Those stupid "what's a computer" ads make a little more sense. With USB-C, developers will support whatever I/O standards they need to in iOS, and the ecosystem of monitors, keyboards, and peripherals we all bought for our laptops/desktops will now begin to work with iOS too. This feature alone g…

Still, it's funny to see Google beat Apple to the punch here and make ChromeOS a valid dev machine for most people before Apple. USB-C doesn't let me run Docker, VSCode or IntelliJ. I'd love to bring an iPad pro for the weekend when I'm on call, but it's still not anywhere near.

"for most people" -> "for most javascript devs" ?

totally ridiculous dev machine for scientific or financial computing, no?

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by coder543 »

jjtheblunt wrote: post #634
pkulak wrote: post #555

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Still, it's funny to see Google beat Apple to the punch here and make ChromeOS a valid dev machine for most people before Apple. USB-C doesn't let me run Docker, VSCode or IntelliJ. I'd love to bring an iPad pro for the weekend when I'm on call, but it's still not anywhere near.

"for most people" -> "for most javascript devs" ? totally ridiculous dev machine for scientific or financial computing, no?

Anything you can run on Linux, you can run on a Chromebook, without even having to do anything hacky these days, as I understand it.

So, nothing to do with JavaScript specifically.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by klinquist »

drb91 wrote: post #538
RubberShoes wrote: post #443

To me, the shift to USB-C signifies a fundamental change in how Apple is approaching the iPad and computing going forward. Those stupid "what's a computer" ads make a little more sense. With USB-C, developers will support whatever I/O standards they need to in iOS, and the ecosystem of monitors, keyboards, and peripherals we all bought for our laptops/desktops will now begin to work with iOS too. This feature alone g…

The biggest pain for me of lack of access to the underlying OS has turned out not to be any of my thousands of tiny gripes with the way the software works that I can't change (e.g. setting dns on the cell connection), but the lack of transparency and ability to debug basic processes. What is the computer doing now? Why is it hanging? Why did that app crash? Why is my network failing? Who is that app talking to? My ma…

>What is the computer doing now? Why is it hanging? Why did that app crash?

For what it's worth... On a computer, I'd look at log files. On an iPad, I'd plug it into my computer... then look at log files.

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Post by scarface74 »

mcculley wrote: post #556
pier25 wrote: post #540

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It's not only the fact that a finger is so much less precise than a cursor, but also that UIs made for fat fingers take up a lot of space. Buttons are bigger, when dragging you need to know what's going on under your finger, etc. I also think that the lack of a desktop UI and a mouse is a huge limiting factor of the iPad Pro.

Also, sometimes you are using a UI not designed for touch (e.g., remote desktop).

At least AWS has solved that problem. The iPad Workspace client supports a Bluetooth mouse. I wish it were supported system wide.

https://docs.aws.amazon.com/workspaces/latest/userguide/amaz...

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Post by _hardwaregeek »

FaceID makes a lot of sense for the iPad, arguably more than the iPhone. What I like about my TouchID is being able to unlock my phone in my pocket or as I'm sliding it out. I'm never going to do that with an iPad.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by pikorino »

SiVal wrote: post #617
drb91 wrote: post #538

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The biggest pain for me of lack of access to the underlying OS has turned out not to be any of my thousands of tiny gripes with the way the software works that I can't change (e.g. setting dns on the cell connection), but the lack of transparency and ability to debug basic processes. What is the computer doing now? Why is it hanging? Why did that app crash? Why is my network failing? Who is that app talking to? My ma…

The reason Apple cares so much more about iOS than MacOS is vastly increased control. With iOS, they control the hardware from the chips up, the OS, which apps you can run, and via Safari-only access to the internet, even what you can and can't do using external services. It makes computing & communications an Apple theme park, where you can't bring anything forbidden into the park, have to buy everything you need fr…

The reason Apple cares so much more about iOS than MacOS is easily obtainable through earnings reports.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by dpkonofa »

xd1936 wrote: post #500
nikhizzle wrote: post #306

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Yes, on IOS 12 I regularly import very large RAW photos on my first generation iPad Pro. The RAW importing workflow is finally as good as the JPG, meaning it actually processes RAW in iOS photos. I'll also add that in some ways, such as editing levels, the iPad and my phone seem faster than a MacBook Pro. Whether this boils down to specialized hardware, more efficient software or something else I do not know. I'll al…

But you still have to import it into Photos first, then jump to the app that you actually want to work in? I wish Apple would open up some of these APIs so that apps like Photoshop could actually interact with the filesystem.

Out of curiosity, what difference does that make? If you can still work with and access those photos from within the app, what difference does it make if they get imported into Photos first vs. a file system?
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