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Re: iPad Pro

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Post by gowld »

DonHopkins wrote: post #518
tk75x wrote: post #486

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Joystick down means nose up because it's simulating the yoke of your airplane in which you pull back (joystick down) in order to "pull up" the nose of the plane. The recent fad of reversing the touchpad scrolling direction is an attempt to simulate how we use our phones in which we tap the content on screen and drag it around to pull other content into view. Because the touchpad was invented to replace a mouse, I exp…

Input devices should allow users to configure a velocity mapping curve (which could be negative to reverse the motion). X-Widows had a crude threshold-based mouse acceleration scheme, but it's better to have an arbitrary curve, like the TrackPoint uses, that can be optimized for the particular user, input device, screen size, and scrolling or pointing task at hand. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mouse_accelerat…

Good information, but it's not a clitoris.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by kanishkdudeja »

RubberShoes wrote: post #443

To me, the shift to USB-C signifies a fundamental change in how Apple is approaching the iPad and computing going forward. Those stupid "what's a computer" ads make a little more sense. With USB-C, developers will support whatever I/O standards they need to in iOS, and the ecosystem of monitors, keyboards, and peripherals we all bought for our laptops/desktops will now begin to work with iOS too. This feature alone g…

I hope iOS 13 will have mouse support for the iPad Pro.

Only being able to touch the screen while using the iPad Pro in laptop mode feels really limiting.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by gowld »

bch wrote: post #278
tyingq wrote: post #41

"The new Liquid Retina display goes from edge to edge" I've never owned an iPad, perhaps I'm missing something here. How does the above statement reconcile with the pictures I see on the page where there's clearly a black bezel? Do they just mean there's not an area at the bottom with a physical button?

Indeed. People do just love hearing words... Presenter: “This display goes from its start...” (Audience gasps) Presenter: “...all the way until it ends! We call this ‘entire’.” Audience: Audience Member 1: (whispering) “I can’t wait until I can get a device with an entire display. I’ll have to put in some OT at the job to save up, though.” Audience Member 2: “What do you do?” AM1: “I work at a company that specialize…

"I have wit. I have charm. I have brains. I have legs that go all the way down to the floor, my friend."

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by abalone »

ssully wrote: post #406
abalone wrote: post #157

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> The obvious benefit for adopting USB-C is compatibility with other devices. Not an obvious benefit for a largely wireless device. For the vast vast majority of people it’s only used for charging and that’s moving to wireless too.

The obvious benefit is not need a specific cable just for my iPhone. I am slowly getting more USB C cables over the last year - it would be nice if I could replace all my lightning cables, which are only used for my iPhone and iPad. It's a small benefit, but it would be nice.

You don't need a specific cable for your iPhone. You can charge it wirelessly.

Regardless, USB-C would not be nicer than keeping the iPhone XR as thin as it is. Lightning really makes it possible.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by usefulcat »

spurcell93 wrote: post #506
playpause wrote: post #494

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Why do you prefer Lightning to USB-C? Just curious.

I prefer it because it feels way better. The snap, and the way the plug feels secure in the socket.... I had a nexus 6p for a year and the plug was so damn unreliable and wiggly. Bought multiple different types but they were all bad. That said, I haven't used any Apple devices with USBC and I would not be surprised if they felt much better.

I've had a 6p for ~2.5 years now and only occasionally have troubles, and then only with certain plugs.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by jayflux »

throwaway413 wrote: post #168
wishinghand wrote: post #62

Finally a mobile device that uses USB-C to charge. I'm glad they fixed the awful UX on charging the pencil. Also stoked there's no notch in the screen, but sad that there's rounded corners. Still no ability to let people make apps for the iPad on the iPad, which I think is truly disappointing. *edit: I just realized it doesn't have a headphone jack and does have a camera bump. Booooooo

I just don't understand why they would release all-new phones literally 2 months ago with Lightning ports, but then release iPads with USB-C. Makes no sense, especially with how they market the X-family as "future-proof". Clearly they aren't. They should have gone with USB-C all around.

Adding to the other replies, the Phones are also on an S release, which means the form factor wouldn’t have changed much this year. If USB-C arrives for phones it will be in next years release. THe phones also have a shorter shelf life than the iPads, so it’s not as big a deal if it isn’t in the phones yet

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by basch »

spurcell93 wrote: post #506
playpause wrote: post #494

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you prefer Lightning to USB-C? Just curious.

I prefer it because it feels way better. The snap, and the way the plug feels secure in the socket.... I had a nexus 6p for a year and the plug was so damn unreliable and wiggly. Bought multiple different types but they were all bad. That said, I haven't used any Apple devices with USBC and I would not be surprised if they felt much better.

the snap. and things cant get IN the cable port.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by drb91 »

RubberShoes wrote: post #443

To me, the shift to USB-C signifies a fundamental change in how Apple is approaching the iPad and computing going forward. Those stupid "what's a computer" ads make a little more sense. With USB-C, developers will support whatever I/O standards they need to in iOS, and the ecosystem of monitors, keyboards, and peripherals we all bought for our laptops/desktops will now begin to work with iOS too. This feature alone g…

The biggest pain for me of lack of access to the underlying OS has turned out not to be any of my thousands of tiny gripes with the way the software works that I can't change (e.g. setting dns on the cell connection), but the lack of transparency and ability to debug basic processes. What is the computer doing now? Why is it hanging? Why did that app crash? Why is my network failing? Who is that app talking to? My main fear is not, in the end, that I won't control or own my device (though I do feel this), but that it will turn computing from a transparent network of understandable processes—which I find beautiful, and which drew me deep into programming—into a Kafkaesque nightmare of inexplicably bad software and automated computer support, not just from apple, but from all the apps in the market they created.

I am absolutely sure that they will port XCode to the iPad itself and allow visibility into my own apps. This is not the same as a workstation.

EDIT: in retrospect, this is only tangentially related to parent post—my apologies. Also: wording, punctuation.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by [deleted] »

tardigras wrote: post #110
minimaxir wrote: post #3

Very impressive demos, but unfortunately the number of apps that can make full use of the increased power is still limited. A common complaint I saw during the presentation was the emphasis of the A12X for gaming, but Apple is still very bad at incentivizing developers to make games with premium experiences and prices (to say nothing of the lack of an official gaming controller!) Also, the new Apple Pencil will only…

It always takes time to fully utilize a new platform's specs.

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Re: iPad Pro

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Post by pier25 »

kanishkdudeja wrote: post #532
RubberShoes wrote: post #443

To me, the shift to USB-C signifies a fundamental change in how Apple is approaching the iPad and computing going forward. Those stupid "what's a computer" ads make a little more sense. With USB-C, developers will support whatever I/O standards they need to in iOS, and the ecosystem of monitors, keyboards, and peripherals we all bought for our laptops/desktops will now begin to work with iOS too. This feature alone g…

I hope iOS 13 will have mouse support for the iPad Pro. Only being able to touch the screen while using the iPad Pro in laptop mode feels really limiting.

It's not only the fact that a finger is so much less precise than a cursor, but also that UIs made for fat fingers take up a lot of space. Buttons are bigger, when dragging you need to know what's going on under your finger, etc.

I also think that the lack of a desktop UI and a mouse is a huge limiting factor of the iPad Pro.

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