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Re: iPad Pro

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> Finally a mobile device that uses USB-C to charge. Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but don't all (most) mobile devices use USB-C to charge these days?

Sorry, I meant an Apple mobile device.

I guess that then depends if you’re also not classing MacBooks as mobile devices because Apple does count their laptops when publishing their mobile device sales figures.

Re: iPad Pro

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I'm presuming you viewed it on a mobile device. On my laptop running firefox I had this experience. My laptop is presently docked to the right of my monitor on my desk. When docked I use a keyboard and mouse with the actual laptop being slightly to the right using its touchpad is somewhat awkward but do-able. Space bar to go down doesn't work, page down/up doesn't work home end doesn't work arrow keys don't work. Try…

> I'm presuming you viewed it on a mobile device. On my laptop running firefox I had this experience. I viewed it on Firefox on my MBP and thought it was great.

Did you have to scroll right 62 times to actually view all the content?.

Were all the normal keyboard/mouse wheel navigation methods broken?

Seemingly good design would imply working for the 90% that don't presently use mac or detecting that a device isn't a phone and presenting a usable interface.

Seriously how do you screw up something simple like scrolling?

Re: iPad Pro

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I prefer it because it feels way better. The snap, and the way the plug feels secure in the socket.... I had a nexus 6p for a year and the plug was so damn unreliable and wiggly. Bought multiple different types but they were all bad. That said, I haven't used any Apple devices with USBC and I would not be surprised if they felt much better.

I have an iPhone and a MacBook with USB-C ports, and my experience has been the exact opposite. The lightning port on my iPhone is really weak, all cords can way too easily lose a connection so my music stops or it stops charging. The USB-C on my laptop snaps in really nicely, I'm never worried about the cable not being fully connected.

Sounds like you’ve got some lint in your iPhone’s charging port. I recently used a cocktail stick to remove a big lump of it from my wife’s 6s where she had the same issues.

Cable snaps in nicely now.

Re: iPad Pro

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A shift from lightning to usb c is apple losing because they didnt donate their port to the spec. They could have "invented" usb c. I understand why they didnt, but I still prefer lightning to usbc. They are doing this before the EU makes them do it. What apple did do was force the market to adapt to a plug that can go in both directions. And they thinned out the plug quite nicely, it never needed to be so thick.

Lightning is awful. It looks nice, but that’s because all the fiddly bits that are prone to failure are hidden in the port. Ever had your iPhone’s Lightning port fail? It’s not particularly rare, and Apple can’t fix it without replacing the whole phone. USB-C puts the parts that wear out quickly in the cable where they belong.

I didn't know that, so I'm glad you mentioned it. I have had at least 20 failed cables and 0 failed ports (of maybe five or six devices) in my experience with Lightning.

Actually, I'm not glad you mentioned it since that makes it even more perplexing. I was glad because if a port ever failed I would not have easily diagnosed it because I thought they were pretty good. But it must be my fault the cables are failing....

Re: iPad Pro

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USB-C is considerably bigger than Lightning while offering arguably no major benefit for an almost entirely wireless device. Think size doesn’t really matter that much? The iPhone XR actually pushes the lightning port down slightly off center to make room for the LCD display. The XR would literally be impossible to make with USB-C.

the original pixel is 0.2milimeters taller, 2 years older, and has a USB-C port. I was talking with an apple hardware engineer... I'm told that the jack is in some ways a limiting factor, though I'd happily take an extra .2mm of depth for universal charging :-)

That's because the Pixel uses an AMOLED display. The iPhone XR uses LED which is cheaper but thicker. My point stands: Lightning's space savings are essential to the iPhone XR.

Also, the iPhones do support universal charging (Qi).

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In the same fashion that microsoft and ibm thrives: its lost its dominance in the consumer market “headspace”, printing money but no longer being a company worth knowing. Its just another BigCo at this point, with all the benefits and dullness associated with it. (Eg it’s difficult to be excited for apple product announcements; they have a money-printing operation and their only intent is to maintain it as-is; natura…

You concluded all this from horizontal scrolling?

Is it your conclusion that they concluded all that from horizontal scrolling ... ?

Re: iPad Pro

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I'm presuming you viewed it on a mobile device. On my laptop running firefox I had this experience. My laptop is presently docked to the right of my monitor on my desk. When docked I use a keyboard and mouse with the actual laptop being slightly to the right using its touchpad is somewhat awkward but do-able. Space bar to go down doesn't work, page down/up doesn't work home end doesn't work arrow keys don't work. Try…

Firefox 63 on Mac works fine for me on this page. Spacebar, page-down, and scrollbar all work (i.e. the content moves a page at a time but horizontally).

Chrome 69 on linux scrolls horizontally at a much saner speed and has working arrow keys but is a fail in every other way mentioned. Firefox 65 on linux is a horrific user experience as described.

An article unlike a computer isn't a new exciting tech marvel it should be simple and work on any device that can render text and multimedia.

Re: iPad Pro

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> it's a metaphor No, "from edge to edge" and "all-screen design" are not metaphors but as concrete as it gets, and obviously wrong. This iPad may be great but these marketing texts are just straight lies.

You don't seem to understand what a metaphor means. If I say it's fast as lightning, I'm not saying it's exactly that fast. It's a metaphor for fast. The fact the speed of lightning is measurable and 'as concrete as it gets' doesn't change the fact that people use it as a metaphor. You may feel the use of 'edge to edge' is an inappropriate metaphor that's fine, not every metaphor is fitting and, hell I'd even agree w…

"It's as fast as lightning" is a simile.

Re: iPad Pro

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Why are people so eager to leap from computer OS's (MacOS or even Windows) to these walled gardens like iOS? I can't imagine developing software on iOS, because you know the deployment procedure will be straight to the app store. This ends the ability to create, distribute and install software yourself. Is this really what we want???

Yes, it's what most people want. As a developer, I do not miss the days of trying to drive people to my website to find my app. If you were lucky you could get a mention on a well-known website or one of the many download aggregators, but it was hit and miss. The Mac had some very good ones, but with Windows, not one was big enough to be worth your time. It was a nightmare. Getting noticed on the app store is non-tri…

at least your product is already in the place where users are going to find stuff

Along with a million other apps.

Re: iPad Pro

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I think iPhones have for a long time been designed with the assumption that every user will add a case.

That's funny... I specifically don't use a case with my iPhone because I feel they have been designed as they are to work without a case.

I fee like if Apple truly didn’t believe they needed a case, they wouldn’t make and sell them.
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