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Would paying people in countries with high birth rates to not have children be exploitative?
I would guess that a lot of the sub-populations with the highest birthrates are disconnected enough from the global economy for money to be meaningless for them.
The backlash against overtourism
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Because world population is already forecast to peak and then decline over the next few decades, economic development has already "done something" about this issue, unless you're proposing mass murder or something equally implausible.
Would paying people in countries with high birth rates to not have children be exploitative?
The episode is not favourably looked on, in general.
https://www.pop.org/a-once-and-future-tragedy-indias-sterili...
Re: The backlash against overtourism
#213Couldn't this be a failure from the European cities in question? While European countries are on the top of the list, the cities? Not that much. The first one is Bangkok. With around 22 million tourists. Paris is third with 18 million. Interestingly, Paris has more things to see, a more extensive metro system (actually waaa..y more extensive). Yet, I seem to be more bothered by tourists in Paris than in Bangkok. In B…
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#214The elephant in the room, of course, is that tourism helps people think of themselves as part of something bigger. The National Parks, for example, help drive votes for conservation. If you've never set foot in nature, and you've never left your town, other places and their problems will always be somewhere beyond the horizon.
Yeah, I actually just got back from a trip to Spain last week. I saw the "TOURISTS GO HOME" graffiti in Barcelona and Granada. Very weird thing to run into when you're from Canada; we're all about new people and cultures and tourism bucks over here. I don't really feel guilty for wanting to see these famous historic places, though, and I'm not going to feel guilty when I go to Amsterdam in April and Japan in Septembe…
Amsterdam is large, but everyone only wants to go to the centre, which has mediaeval-size streets. In Barcelona there are a few expected sights. Both cities are also normal cities.
27 million tourists to Canada — 82 million to Spain — 17 million to the Netherlands
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Canada and similar.
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Food is cheap enough we throw away a ton of it and energy could scale significantly further quite easily if there weren't an anti-science political barrier to nuclear.
It should be fun telling the Japanese government that shutting down all of their nuclear plants in the last few years is 'anti-science'.
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Do people go to see Venice, or to see Venetians? The easy, facile answer is to move all the residents out, turn the old city into Historic Venice Amusements District, build a commuter transit line out to New Venice (with no tourist attractions), and all of its civic services are then paid for by income from the tourist trap. Everyone has ready access to service jobs in the tourism and public safety sectors. If touris…
I don't get it. You're describing Venice as it is today.
If demand were high enough, someone could build a replica out in the deserts of southern Nevada or northern China.
I'm not very keen on tourism in general, if you couldn't detect my tone. When it's not part of a parting-cash-from-visitors industry, tourism can actually be quite inexpensive and enjoyable, but all the incentives are for locals to establish such an industry once the numbers rise high enough. The only way around it is to not visit the same places (away from home) too often, and to not go anywhere with too many visitors. Once businesses start to differentiate between those serving locals and those serving visitors, the slope starts slipping.
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At least a few of those have evolving technical solutions. We can all travel in a more sustainable way if we can do full body VR immersion wherever we want to go. We don't need cars if we have fleets of autonomous vehicles to pick us up and drop us off wherever we want to be on a whim. We can all live in the country if you don't need to commute either yourself or property to and from where you live (the infrastructur…
> We can all travel in a more sustainable way if we can do full body VR immersion wherever we want to go You have a peculiar and non-standard definition of the word "travel"
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Environmental issues are economic issues.
A totalitarian ideology is one that tries to creep into every aspect of our life, and rejects the exploration of alternative models.
Your freedom is a prison. Don't talk to me about totalitarianism.
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#219Mass tourism is being treated as unique when really, we're discovering that everyone cannot have a "good" standard of living. We can't all go travelling, we won't fit in the same place and we'll boil the earth doing so. We can't all have a car because we'll boil the earth. If we develop EV's and don't boil the earth, they won't all fit downtown. We can't all live in the country, that's not sustainable either. We can'…
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> We can all travel in a more sustainable way if we can do full body VR immersion wherever we want to go You have a peculiar and non-standard definition of the word "travel"
I mean would you ever actually travel if you owned a holodeck?