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Re: iPad Pro

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Post by pjmlp »

qyv wrote: post #318
unrealhoang wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, my wildest dream is that they will release XCode with developer's tools (i.e. compilers), my laptop will be gone that exact second.

Why are people so eager to leap from computer OS's (MacOS or even Windows) to these walled gardens like iOS? I can't imagine developing software on iOS, because you know the deployment procedure will be straight to the app store. This ends the ability to create, distribute and install software yourself. Is this really what we want???

Yes, because this walled gardens offer us very nice tooling similar to the Xerox PARC days of yore, instead of lego pieces that we need to sort out new every year, while offering sandboxes that actually protect $HOME from random apps.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by read_if_gay_ »

dpark wrote: post #373
vxNsr wrote: post #358

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> A pen magnetically attached will likely pop off when you put the tablet in your bag. The surface pen already magnetically attaches to the surface, this would just give that attachment another purpose. > Swapping it out when it dies seems simpler than remembering to charge it regularly. You don't have to remember anything, you just "redock" the stylus when you're done using it and it will charge.

> The surface pen already magnetically attaches to the surface, this would just give that another purpose. I'm aware. But it's not "just another purpose". It's a different design. A battery that needs charging is a fundamentally different design choice than a battery that needs replacing. I'd rather a disposable battery that lasts for a year than a rechargeable battery that lasts a week. > You don't have to remember…

>I'd rather a disposable battery that lasts for a year than a rechargeable battery that lasts a week

The science isn't quite there yet with those uranium batteries

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by mnem »

theduro wrote: post #509

Why none of the top comments on a site called Hacker News are about the fact that this is far from anything that could be used for software development surprises me. Only feasible way to use this for dev would be using a cloud IDE, since I have no access to the OS or ability to install dependencies. I love the idea of the iPad becoming something that could replace a laptop, but for me I wait for the day when I can at…

While my laptop was away getting fixed, I used an iPad Pro, Textastic and a linux instance on Digital Ocean to do a reasonable amount of Rust development. I was surprised how well it worked.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by matt4077 »

RubberShoes wrote: post #443

To me, the shift to USB-C signifies a fundamental change in how Apple is approaching the iPad and computing going forward. Those stupid "what's a computer" ads make a little more sense. With USB-C, developers will support whatever I/O standards they need to in iOS, and the ecosystem of monitors, keyboards, and peripherals we all bought for our laptops/desktops will now begin to work with iOS too. This feature alone g…

When you're starting from a change in plugs and end up predicting shifts in CPU architecture ten years down the road, there's a pretty high chance it's just fitting noise into your pre-existing narrative.

FWIW: the death of the Mac has been predicted constantly since at least the original iPhone came out. If it takes another decade to happen, at least we can lay these accusations to rest that publicly traded companies are forced into short-termism.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by pkulak »

RubberShoes wrote: post #443

To me, the shift to USB-C signifies a fundamental change in how Apple is approaching the iPad and computing going forward. Those stupid "what's a computer" ads make a little more sense. With USB-C, developers will support whatever I/O standards they need to in iOS, and the ecosystem of monitors, keyboards, and peripherals we all bought for our laptops/desktops will now begin to work with iOS too. This feature alone g…

Still, it's funny to see Google beat Apple to the punch here and make ChromeOS a valid dev machine for most people before Apple. USB-C doesn't let me run Docker, VSCode or IntelliJ. I'd love to bring an iPad pro for the weekend when I'm on call, but it's still not anywhere near.

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Post by mcculley »

pier25 wrote: post #540
kanishkdudeja wrote: post #532

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I hope iOS 13 will have mouse support for the iPad Pro. Only being able to touch the screen while using the iPad Pro in laptop mode feels really limiting.

It's not only the fact that a finger is so much less precise than a cursor, but also that UIs made for fat fingers take up a lot of space. Buttons are bigger, when dragging you need to know what's going on under your finger, etc. I also think that the lack of a desktop UI and a mouse is a huge limiting factor of the iPad Pro.

Also, sometimes you are using a UI not designed for touch (e.g., remote desktop).

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by lern_too_spel »

Redoubts wrote: post #86
SllX wrote: post #24

From the keynote, Cook claimed the new A12X Bionic[1] is faster than 92% of portable PCs[2] (in English, laptops, Surfaces) sold in the past year, including some i7 models. - 8 core CPU (4 low and 4 high power cores) - 7 core GPU - HEVC encoding/decoding - Neural Engine (they haven't made any comparisons to the A12 sans X neural engine, so at this point I think it's the same) - Audio DSP, Storage controller, Image Si…

This was either a sharp prod for intel, or some serious signaling.

Or pure marketing. Look for the asterisk that explains the workload.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by killerdhmo »

askafriend wrote: post #95
minimaxir wrote: post #3

Very impressive demos, but unfortunately the number of apps that can make full use of the increased power is still limited. A common complaint I saw during the presentation was the emphasis of the A12X for gaming, but Apple is still very bad at incentivizing developers to make games with premium experiences and prices (to say nothing of the lack of an official gaming controller!) Also, the new Apple Pencil will only…

Counterpoint: A full version of Photoshop is coming to iPad in 2019. Adobe announced it at their conference recently. I suspect they'll bring full versions of Lightroom, and all their other Pro Apps soon to iPad.

Yep; here are live apps:

* Lightroom CC on iPhone/iPad: https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-cc/how-to/lightroom-mobile...

* Just recently announced Premier Rush: https://www.adobe.com/products/premiere-rush.html

Planned/Announced: * Photoshop: https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/photoshop-ecosystem.html * Project Gemini (for drawing/painting/illustrating): https://theblog.adobe.com/introducing-project-gemini/

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Post by odonnellryan »

mnem wrote: post #553
theduro wrote: post #509

Why none of the top comments on a site called Hacker News are about the fact that this is far from anything that could be used for software development surprises me. Only feasible way to use this for dev would be using a cloud IDE, since I have no access to the OS or ability to install dependencies. I love the idea of the iPad becoming something that could replace a laptop, but for me I wait for the day when I can at…

While my laptop was away getting fixed, I used an iPad Pro, Textastic and a linux instance on Digital Ocean to do a reasonable amount of Rust development. I was surprised how well it worked.

For Nomads it is actually a good way to work, too, because it is more secure for your clients in a way.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by chipotle_coyote »

michaelmrose wrote: post #458
RubberShoes wrote: post #443

To me, the shift to USB-C signifies a fundamental change in how Apple is approaching the iPad and computing going forward. Those stupid "what's a computer" ads make a little more sense. With USB-C, developers will support whatever I/O standards they need to in iOS, and the ecosystem of monitors, keyboards, and peripherals we all bought for our laptops/desktops will now begin to work with iOS too. This feature alone g…

Jailbreaking will never be mainstream when people worry about the warranty on their 1k-2k+ devices. If you want people to own their own devices you will have to write it into law presumably in a more consumer friendly jurisdiction than the US which cares about business first last and only.

I'm aware the jailbreak community often felt Apple was targeting them specifically, and perhaps they were, but every jailbreak was also exposing a security flaw. Personally, I've never been worried about jailbreaking voiding my warranty -- I just never got sufficient value from it to make it worth the drawbacks. (Both value and drawbacks are subjective measures, obviously.)

While I understand the "you must own your own device" line, that's more of a rallying cry than a useful description. (I have a similar pedantic complaint with "if you're not the customer, you're the product," for what it's worth.) It's interesting to think about a regulatory framework that mandates companies build software-driven devices with the ability for end users to do their own software loads, but figuring out how to do that in a way that doesn't let companies wiggle out of it and doesn't essentially mandate insecure back doors in all "smart" consumer electronic devices seems to me to be a non-trivial problem.

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