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Re: iPad Pro

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Post by appleiigs » Tue, Oct 30, 2018, 5:36 PM UTC

pasbesoin wrote: post #285

appleiigs wrote: post #238

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My 75 year old mom has real trouble trying to use her ipad mini, especially with taking pictures. Inevitably the left hand trying to hold the ipad has a thumb on the touch screen. Then when she tries to do anything else with right hand it is registered as a pinch. She also had a career in graphic design and now teaches oil/acrylic painting. I know from her, the art world likes frames. A bezel is not a bad thing.

Not to take away from the larger concern, but in your mother's case, perhaps a case with a significant border would help. I suppose if there is not a ready-made one that suits, making /hacking one, the old-fashioned way or through 3D printing, would be an option. One reason I put a case on every one of my cell phones, is to give me something more substantial to hold on to. The thin bodies and edges start to become a…

Thank you for your suggestion. My mother has declined adding a case because she carries the ipad mini in her purse when she is out. She doesn't want the additional bulk. She knows she is "not holding it properly" and moves her thumb if it's not responding to her.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by ff10 » Tue, Oct 30, 2018, 5:36 PM UTC

Jgrubb wrote: post #18

The person who decided to make this scroll sideways instead of down when you scroll down, and not to scroll sideways when you scroll sideways should be put in stocks in the town square.

For the record, it seems to work both ways with desktop Safari.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by dpark » Tue, Oct 30, 2018, 5:36 PM UTC

vxNsr wrote: post #358

dpark wrote: post #253

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> Which is to me another one of those ingenious but now obvious design choices ... I wish that Microsoft had thought of this for the surface pen. I'm kind of glad they didn't. A pen magnetically attached will likely pop off when you put the tablet in your bag. It's a nice place to dock the pen when you're using the tablet, but poor place to store it in a bag. People report up to a year of life with the Surface Pen ba…

> A pen magnetically attached will likely pop off when you put the tablet in your bag. The surface pen already magnetically attaches to the surface, this would just give that attachment another purpose. > Swapping it out when it dies seems simpler than remembering to charge it regularly. You don't have to remember anything, you just "redock" the stylus when you're done using it and it will charge.

> The surface pen already magnetically attaches to the surface, this would just give that another purpose.

I'm aware. But it's not "just another purpose". It's a different design. A battery that needs charging is a fundamentally different design choice than a battery that needs replacing. I'd rather a disposable battery that lasts for a year than a rechargeable battery that lasts a week.

> You don't have to remember anything, you just "redock" the stylus when you're done using it and it will charge.

And then you shove your tablet in your bag and the pen falls off. The pen languishes in the bottom of the bag until the next time you want to use it, when it may or may not still be holding a usable charge.

A pen that needs to be stuck to the side of your device regularly is fine for a device that sits on a desk all the time. It's less clearly beneficial for a device that gets handled constantly and goes into and out of bags.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by aklemm » Tue, Oct 30, 2018, 5:37 PM UTC

calgoo wrote: post #123

tyingq wrote: post #41

"The new Liquid Retina display goes from edge to edge" I've never owned an iPad, perhaps I'm missing something here. How does the above statement reconcile with the pictures I see on the page where there's clearly a black bezel? Do they just mean there's not an area at the bottom with a physical button?

Am I the only one who actually like to have an edge on my devices so they dont break by looking at them? At least if there is a metal edge it can take some of the force and you have a chance of not breaking the screen. I dont understand why metal is bad and glass is somehow good? Also, I need to grab my ipad, move it around, spin it, grab it with the other hand etc. I see the edges / bezel's as very useful in these c…

Right?! I do not understand the crusade to remove all bezels.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by mattkevan » Tue, Oct 30, 2018, 5:37 PM UTC

akhilcacharya wrote: post #217

davemp wrote: post #161

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Nope. Apple would need to do a pretty decent amount of work on iOS to support desktop like behavior. I'm not sure if there's much sales incentive either. Which is a shame because Apple got where it is by pushing the best possible user experiences. Not blind sales maximization.

Am I going crazy? Didn't they support mice pointers when the iPad originally launched?

There was a jailbreak hack that added bluetooth mouse and pointer support to iOS. With another hack that added multi-window support you could turn an iPad into a buggy and slow version of macOS

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by moftz » Tue, Oct 30, 2018, 5:37 PM UTC

qyv wrote: post #318

unrealhoang wrote: post #166

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Yes, my wildest dream is that they will release XCode with developer's tools (i.e. compilers), my laptop will be gone that exact second.

Why are people so eager to leap from computer OS's (MacOS or even Windows) to these walled gardens like iOS? I can't imagine developing software on iOS, because you know the deployment procedure will be straight to the app store. This ends the ability to create, distribute and install software yourself. Is this really what we want???

Because their experience (and probably livelihood) rests with iOS apps. No one is buying an iPad hoping that some day they can write kernel patches on it. If you make your money off an ecosystem, you are going to buy hardware for that ecosystem.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by benburleson » Tue, Oct 30, 2018, 5:37 PM UTC

MR4D wrote: post #326

Jgrubb wrote: post #18

The person who decided to make this scroll sideways instead of down when you scroll down, and not to scroll sideways when you scroll sideways should be put in stocks in the town square.

Steve is rolling over in his grave on this.

*Flipping head-to-toe

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by MAGZine » Tue, Oct 30, 2018, 5:38 PM UTC

abalone wrote: post #69

rtkwe wrote: post #11

Huh looks like most of the predictions I'd heard came true: USB-C and no home button. Wonder if they're going to do the same shift on the rest of the lines? I'm a little surprised that the iPhone Xs and Xr weren't switched over to USB-c if this is planned for the whole line. Charging the pencil attached to the side is pretty neat the old solution was very... odd and seemed pretty dangerous (having such a long lever a…

USB-C is considerably bigger than Lightning while offering arguably no major benefit for an almost entirely wireless device. Think size doesn’t really matter that much? The iPhone XR actually pushes the lightning port down slightly off center to make room for the LCD display. The XR would literally be impossible to make with USB-C.

the original pixel is 0.2milimeters taller, 2 years older, and has a USB-C port.

I was talking with an apple hardware engineer... I'm told that the jack is in some ways a limiting factor, though I'd happily take an extra .2mm of depth for universal charging :-)

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by MR4D » Tue, Oct 30, 2018, 5:39 PM UTC

SteveNuts wrote: post #333

MR4D wrote: post #326

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Steve is rolling over in his grave on this.

People have been saying this since the day after Steve died... Yet somehow Apple still thrives.

I'm not saying that apple won't thrive - nor anything like it.I'm merely saying the interface design would probably have made Steve fire the person who did it.

And I probably wouldn't argue.

After all, when viewing the page on an iPad, I can't double-tap the top of the screen to make it go back to the beginning. Irony at its best.

Seriously - that's a great feature that I use multiple times per day, and Apple broke their own rule!

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by olyjohn » Tue, Oct 30, 2018, 5:40 PM UTC

Invictus0 wrote: post #315

OskarS wrote: post #156

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If you want to test the mettle of a computer, try opening a large Photoshop file and doing anything in it. This, right here, is why it's an indictment of the software industry. It SHOULDN'T be impressive that Photoshop doesn't lag. When she said that line, the entire audience should have shrugged and said to themselves "Of course you can zoom into an image in Photoshop. It's 2018. What's the big deal?"

I know you're trying to make the point that most software is bloated/slow/etc. but this is not the example to use for that point. Things don't just get faster because it's current year. The size of photos has increased by orders of magnitude since Photoshop debuted, the size of screens has increased, and the capabilities of the program have increased. In Photoshop, it is not only plausible but commonplace to have mul…

> It's also worth considering that Photoshop only really uses 2 cores at maximum anyway.

Seriously? I think this is more confirming that the person you replied to is right. Unless there is some reason that I can think of that only using 2 cores is a good thing?