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Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by s_trumpet »

jnovek wrote: post #455
tempestn wrote: post #427

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I think you're really on to something here. The details are different, but it reminds me of how I use social media. Most of my engagement consists of a private Slack groups with groups of friends who enjoy discussing various topics. (And within these groups I tend to subscribe to only the channels that I find more interesting.) Similarly, on Instagram I have one account where I follow a group of close friends I've mo…

I emailed slack about a year ago suggesting that they were totally missing the boat on slack as a social network. I am in 4 slacks and only one of them is professional. They were not interested.

IMO Discord already is what Slack as a social network could be.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by chiefalchemist »

thomasfromcdnjs wrote: post #401
chiefalchemist wrote: post #45

> "Pew surveyed more than 3,400 U.S. Facebook users in May and June, and found that a whopping 44 percent of those ages 18 to 29 say they've deleted the app from their phone in the last year." That feels like a fairly small sample. Then from that to look at some subset (i.e., 18 to 29) feels even more suspect. Also, best I can tell, this survey was self-reported. This is worthy of at-the-bar discussion, but let's not…

This comment was hard to find... and also downvoted. It is a super small sample, they do not even allude to what percentage of those votes were in the 18 - 29 category. The provided pdf from the original Pewresearch article seems pretty bare -> http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/1/201... I see this happen quite regularly on Hacker News, a bit strange for a rational/fact based community to behave.…

I see the same. Maybe because it's stating the obvious? That said, when you read the comments it's as if so often the obvious has been ignored. Such is the effects of confirmation bias?

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by gammateam »

newsbinator wrote: post #527
octorian wrote: post #398

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> She really thinks she's "fighting the good fight" by posting a fresh outrage every day. I have a few people in my feed who do this, from both sides. It almost feels like they've turned into nothing but meme/share-bots. It gets so annoying that I should probably block them already. If you try to call out the content, you either get childishly shouted down because you're on "the other side", or called out as "the pro…

> or called out as "the problem" because you don't agree with their group-think. It feels good to have someone verbalize this. I can't enjoy much social media anymore because there's an expectation that discussing anything opinionated requires a preface about what side you're on. Making a politically neutral statement means you're with the enemy (where the enemy is on the side opposite whoever reads your neutral stat…

> HN is the calmest place to have a discussion with someone, because no one's looking for clues about your personal beliefs and what side you're ostensibly warring for.

just scroll to the bottom where everything is downvote-collapsed already, anything that isn't Silicon Valley political echo chamber isn't really discussed holistically and garners the same "you're the enemy" or "you're not in the middle if you don't already agree with me" response as other networks

need a patch for this

My thoughts are that Americans need a credible external threat for unity, and currently we don't have one. The Cold War thing jumped the shark decades ago and just doesn't have unifying consensus as being a problem for America, the religious extremist story has fallen apart with everyone knowing its all part of our cozy relationship with the House of Saud. So here we are

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by mercer »

TheRealDunkirk wrote: post #491
erickhill wrote: post #380

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It took me about 10 years to finally "get Twitter". I used to use it for professional reasons, posting what I considered relevant content. For the most part no one really cared. The engagement was almost always nil. Sort of like saying something intelligent, out of the blue, to a crowded stadium of people doing the same thing. Then, 2 years ago I created a new account that ONLY focused on a personal hobby of mine: re…

I did the same thing with trying to avoiding politics and entertainment, and just following programmers and development thought leaders. Yeah... They almost all wind up being political too. I simply cannot find a way to find interesting accounts that don't wind up talking about politics and current events. I don't care. I don't want to use Twitter for that, but apparently, Twitter doesn't want me to use the service f…

A few years ago I remember trying out twitter and following John Gruber. Back then I was interested in what he had to say about Apple, but instead I got a mix of Apple stuff and, IIRC, inane baseball updates. I remember thinking that it felt like a real step back to have such a mixed feed, compared to just subscribing to his daringfireball.net RSS feed.

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Post by duxup »

erickhill wrote: post #380
duxup wrote: post #320

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I don't even know what Twitter is for except mutual high fives over the most superficial "look at me" memeish stuff. It's worse than facebook as far as the "get attention" vibe. Granted all social media is about getting attention, and I don't think there is anything wrong with it necessarily. Attention is nice, there is good reason for it, but when the message is so tailored to just that and there isn't anything else…

It took me about 10 years to finally "get Twitter". I used to use it for professional reasons, posting what I considered relevant content. For the most part no one really cared. The engagement was almost always nil. Sort of like saying something intelligent, out of the blue, to a crowded stadium of people doing the same thing. Then, 2 years ago I created a new account that ONLY focused on a personal hobby of mine: re…

That's kinda what I want it to be. Topic focused or such.

It's just finding those folks is hard.

I don't post personal stuff, I'm also not really intrested in that.

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Post by duxup »

laingc wrote: post #505
erickhill wrote: post #380

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It took me about 10 years to finally "get Twitter". I used to use it for professional reasons, posting what I considered relevant content. For the most part no one really cared. The engagement was almost always nil. Sort of like saying something intelligent, out of the blue, to a crowded stadium of people doing the same thing. Then, 2 years ago I created a new account that ONLY focused on a personal hobby of mine: re…

I use Twitter in an almost identical fashion, and I experience absolutely no toxicity, trolling, or other bad behaviour. Twitter is, like many things, what you make of it.

It's just hard to ... make it there.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by SmellyGeekBoy »

cheeze wrote: post #497
brobdingnagians wrote: post #12

I realized I was checking facebook a lot each day whenever I had a spare moment, but didn't have anything really interesting happening, and I wanted to engage more with those around me and have more time for down-time thinking. So I deleted the app, knowing that making the threshold higher for checking it would reduce my usage, now I might check facebook once a month on my desktop, and still nothing happening, so it…

I worry if not Facebook its something else. I deleted fb but now I check this website a hundred times a day...

You and me both. At least HN is educational. That's what I keep telling myself, at least.

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Post by SmellyGeekBoy »

samstave wrote: post #309
cududa wrote: post #249

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They’ve tested it time and time again, most recently last year. There’s less posting of images and stories which they figured would lower engagement across the app in general if there was marginally less content (they see it as their high growth crown jewel). I suspect when growth plateaus we’ll see the iPad app

But that's a lame argument: I don't expect iPad to be the primary device for posting, but you should be able to have a fine consuming experience in it. It feels like running a 640x480 app on a 4k capable screen. It's a joke that they would ignore what a crappy experience it is.

If you're not interested in posting why not just use instagram.com?

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Post by SmellyGeekBoy »

cronix wrote: post #275
nurino wrote: post #262

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Well, they are now on their way to also ruin WhatsApp. That could be the third platform they ruin :P

And will then be renamed to WhatWasThatApp as everyone abandons it lol

Thanks Dad.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by SmellyGeekBoy »

executesorder66 wrote: post #539
cronix wrote: post #197

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You mean to ruin a secondary platform? I've all but stopped using Instagram for the same reason I've all but stopped using FB... there are just too many ads to scroll past to see what I'm actually there to see (the people I'm friends with/following). Every other post now seems to be an ad/sponsored post. Both platforms have gone overboard to the point that I only visit maybe once/week now instead of daily. I also don…

I just flag every ad as spam. After a day or 2 I never saw an ad on Instagram again.

Me too. I see a huge number of ads on a fairly recent secondary account but none at all on my long-standing personal account.
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