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Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Not that these things aren't replaceable/fixable, but the only two features keeping me on Facebook is 1) I have 2 active FB groups I would like to continue participating in and 2) I get most event invites from friends through FB events and would not want to be excluded/forgotten because I decided to delete my account.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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post #259

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>>> For example most travel site you probably use are owned by priceline. Actually, most travel sites you use are probably owned by Expedia, then priceline. Together, they own every single major web sites about travel.

I just got back from a three week vacation, and the travel-specific site I used most was TripAdvisor. I also used a lot of sites not specific to travel (like google maps and reddit). Does TripAdivsor not qualify as a "major website about travel"? I don't actually know what share of travel-related web traffic they get, and I realize that Expedia and Priceline both own lots of other sites in the space.

TripAdvisor was owned by Expedia from 2004-2011

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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I never used FB very much, but comments on some sites I frequent are FB-hosted. As a result I don't comment, but in the last year whenever I look at them these comment sections are inevitably chock-filled with spam. Why does e.g. ESPN think they're getting something valuable out of that business relationship?

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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The same thing that makes holiday dinners a chore, having to endure all of your friends and relatives uninformed opinions, is now making Facebook a chore.

That was actually the reason I used it for example. There was a lot of discussion about political topics, even with uninformed people. I liked that - it was sometimes wasted effort, but it was partly done for the audience, to prevent people spreading bullshit everywhere.

Then Facebook stopped showing me those posts in the feed, and my "engagement" went rapidly to 0. I suspect they found out that people seeing only opinions similar to theirs spend more time in-app...

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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I have teenagers and college-age kids and I'm not surprised in the least. They openly consider Facebook to be a platform for old people. They seem to have moved to more of a distributed social media system. That is, they don't seem to have a central place where they communicate with friends. They seem to move between texts, facetime, tumblr, instagram, phone calls (!), etc. in a fluid manner. Anything except for Face…

I’ve noticed that most young people don’t use Facebook until they graduate from college, become an adult and move away from home and want to keep in touch with people. Why use Facebook when your friendship circle is people you see every day?

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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I realized I was checking facebook a lot each day whenever I had a spare moment, but didn't have anything really interesting happening, and I wanted to engage more with those around me and have more time for down-time thinking. So I deleted the app, knowing that making the threshold higher for checking it would reduce my usage, now I might check facebook once a month on my desktop, and still nothing happening, so it…

I believe that is how Facebook dies. Not people deleting their account, they’ll just stop checking their feed, because it’s spam and stuff friends likes or share and no longer posts about their life.

I used to use it daily, but now basically do not interact with it at all. I left because a year ago I spent a week away from it, and when I logged back in it was insanely spammy and clingy with irrelevant "your friend liked this post" notifications that I literally couldn't turn off.

The unmutable spam in my inbox forced me to turn off all Facebook mail notifications, and the user-hostile behavior made me hate the platform and not want to come back to it, almost out of spite.

I'll bet these underhanded tactics performed great in A/B testing. But big picture, they should not be surprised that people are leaving in droves after deliberately degrading user experience.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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I'm on an Android where the Facebook program came default. I've never logged into the site using my device, and I never will. But thanks to the way Alcatel, TracFone, and Facebook have it worked out, the best thing I can do is "Force Stop" and "Disable" the program rather than uninstall it and remove it from my device. It definitely makes me worried about logging into any website - even in "Incognito Mode", because it says to me that someone wants to know what I'm doing whether I like that or not.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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I'm always suspicious of stats like this. Is it cherry-picked? Does it mean what it sounds like it means? Do young users just delete-n-reinstall apps more often than older users? Is 44% higher than last year...?

All that said, I expect FB (the social media network, not the company) to peak and shrink, at some point. It just seems more like something that exists for a certain period of time.

Imagine a movie set in 2034. Do FB notifications ping the characters' AR lenses?

If you think of long-lived tech companies, they tend to have a very deep moat (oracle, msft, intel) and/or terrific execution ability (amazon, google, foxconn, apple). Facebook hasn't shown execution ability like that yet. Their moat isn't that deep.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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post #249

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Does anyone else find it super-strange that, as what is consistently one of the top ten iOS applications in the App Store, and a massive company now purchased by an even more massive company, Instagram can not be bothered to produce a native iPad app? It's been 8 years (the first iPad was released in 2010) and the platform has certainly proven itself not to be a fad. Instagram looks like an actual joke on my iPad Pro…

They’ve tested it time and time again, most recently last year. There’s less posting of images and stories which they figured would lower engagement across the app in general if there was marginally less content (they see it as their high growth crown jewel). I suspect when growth plateaus we’ll see the iPad app

But that's a lame argument: I don't expect iPad to be the primary device for posting, but you should be able to have a fine consuming experience in it.

It feels like running a 640x480 app on a 4k capable screen.

It's a joke that they would ignore what a crappy experience it is.

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