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Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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I stopped posting because of the whole thing about social media written in ink. I'm not posting something which may be held against me, or have me randomly shamed in the future because the nuance of my joke was lost in text. When I last posted in 2007, the internet seemed to be a much different, friendlier place. Facebook in 2007 was also mostly about friends, and not selling me stuff that it couldn't possibly know I…

It is frightening how the internet outrage culture is getting people fired and destroying their lives over some stupid tweet.

The risk/reward of posting humor on the internet nowadays is terrible. Reward is maybe a few of your friends find it funny, maybe it gets ignored. Risk is someone is offended, you lose your livelihood and become an internet pariah because someone organized an angry mob against you on some Discord. Maybe someone doxes you, finds your address and starts harassing you at your home. The internet in 2018 is kind of a terrible place.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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I never wanted to disable the app, only disable notifications. The app however, made this impossible. It kept having popups and kept redirect to settings to re-enable them. The popups were so bad it made using the app without push notifications impossible. So I just deleted it instead.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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I refrained from installing FB on my phone at the last refresh. I don't mind FB, I even like it pretty well, but the app feels like it's constantly gathering data about myself, my friends, where I go, how long I'm there, etc., etc. The value proposition just isn't there for what I get from FB in exchange for the data they're getting. I still use the web FB, and that's fine.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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I believe that is how Facebook dies. Not people deleting their account, they’ll just stop checking their feed, because it’s spam and stuff friends likes or share and no longer posts about their life.

That pretty much exactly describes me - I never did delete the app on my phone but I can't remember when I last opened it. I just have no interest in checking it anymore.

you should probably delete it. in case it's sending your juicy phone data back to the mother ship in the background. (it probably is).

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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They are just going from FB to Instagram: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/22/teens-abandoning-facebook-st... FB can shift its model to becoming like priceline. Just try to buy up all the social networks. For example most travel site you probably use are owned by priceline. The same way Facebook could maybe buy up other social networks.

>>> For example most travel site you probably use are owned by priceline. Actually, most travel sites you use are probably owned by Expedia, then priceline. Together, they own every single major web sites about travel.

Priceline actually got renamed to Booking Holding earlier this year, to reflect the fact that Booking.com is by far the largest part of their turnover.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Anecdotal obviously, but I'm surprised at how pervasive the "Facebook listens to your conversations through the app" rumors are, even among the more technically literate. I'm curious how much of an effect that rumor had on this finding.

no effect for me, personally. my reasons for deleting the app and halting usage of facebook was entirely based on the plethora of toxic/useless content that just made me want to punch most of my friends in the face.

I recall someone posting on Reddit:

Facebook = Friends and family pissing me off

Reddit = Strangers amusing me

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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This is incorrect. Facebook already needs a permissions from multiple regulators if it attempts to buy competitor – not just from US regulators. WhatsApp and Instagram acquisitions needed approvals from EU before they could continue.

> WhatsApp and Instagram acquisitions needed approvals from EU before they could continue. What would it mean for a US based company if they decided to acquire two other US based companies and US regulators approved it, but EU regulators didn't? What would happen if the company went forward with the acquisition anyway?

Most likely, the company would be fined and ordered to either sell off the company or agree to some other set of penalties. If they refused to pay the fine or perform their penalties, they could be banned from operating in the EU. They'd be unable to advertise in the EU, make deals with EU companies, employ people and set up datacentres in the EU, etc etc.

Companies like Facebook aren't "US based" in any way that means anything except for where their CEO normally works and which stock exchange their shares are traded on - they have operations that are central to their business all over the world, and many of those can be disrupted.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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They are just going from FB to Instagram: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/22/teens-abandoning-facebook-st... FB can shift its model to becoming like priceline. Just try to buy up all the social networks. For example most travel site you probably use are owned by priceline. The same way Facebook could maybe buy up other social networks.

>>> For example most travel site you probably use are owned by priceline. Actually, most travel sites you use are probably owned by Expedia, then priceline. Together, they own every single major web sites about travel.

I just got back from a three week vacation, and the travel-specific site I used most was TripAdvisor. I also used a lot of sites not specific to travel (like google maps and reddit).

Does TripAdivsor not qualify as a "major website about travel"? I don't actually know what share of travel-related web traffic they get, and I realize that Expedia and Priceline both own lots of other sites in the space.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Wait what... Instagram's feed isn't chronological?

They added a indicator "You’re All Caught Up" when you've seen all new posts on the feed. Of course there can be some posts below the indicator that you haven't seen. Now also Strava is making their feed sorted by some magic with no option to make it chronological :( I can't quite understand this trend.

It's a symptom of the way our industry works. Pick a metric and over optimise it.

Say you pick the "time to like a post" metric, then as an employee you're incentivised to put the most click-baitee article at the top. Now if you pick the "number of ads displayed in feed without drop-out" you may have something similar too.

Rince and repeat and you end up with the mess we see.

Regarding Instagram, I noticed they started to retain posts from the timeline. So they encourage compulsive checking it the app. Open it once : it shows 2 new posts, close it and open it again, 2 more posts, both old by at least a few hours.

They just rewarded your brain for checking the app compulsively. Once I noticed that I couldn't unsee it, and I closed my account.

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