In Amazon Go, no one thinks I'm stealing

Post by andrewchambers » Sun, Oct 28, 2018, 1:10 PM UTC

PhasmaFelis wrote: post #18

andrewchambers wrote: post #10

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People should stop talking for others when they are unelected or not nominated. Just because she feels that way, doesn't mean every black person does. Maybe many do, but I don't think it is productive to speak for other people's experience. Of course when speaking for oneself, then it is fine to say anything.

That seems like a great way to ignore basically any complaint, by dismissing it as a lone outlier. All other things being equal, it should be pretty clear that a given black person is more qualified to speak about the black experience than a given white person is to refute them. If you have reason to believe that this particular writer is unreliable or not representative, then by all means share them.

Post by andrewchambers » Sun, Oct 28, 2018, 1:12 PM UTC

salvar wrote: post #61

Dylan16807 wrote: post #59

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Yep, that's what they said. You can read it right there in the comment. Are you trying to imply something? I hope you're not trying to imply hypocrisy, because saying what someone should do is not speaking for them.

Yeah that's fair. It was a weak argument.

Post by salvar » Sun, Oct 28, 2018, 1:24 PM UTC

andrewchambers wrote: post #103

salvar wrote: post #61

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Yeah that's fair. It was a weak argument.

I didn't mean to say the argument is wrong or anything. I just think its dangerous to get into things like: "As a hacker news poster, we all feel that ..." Not even targeting this article in particular, it isn't bad at all from that perspective, just a trend I have been seeing and thinking about.

Post by eeZah7Ux » Sun, Oct 28, 2018, 1:32 PM UTC

eeZah7Ux wrote: post #60

mattigames wrote: post #37

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So what you are saying is that profiling against a group with a history of appalling treatment at the hands of the majority is one thing, but doing the same with a different profiling is wrong, because clothing is clearly a choice but skin color is clearly not; despite being white boys raised among hundreds of people with the same clothing preference we should expect such young men to go against their surroundings an…

Yes, it's legitimate to discriminate on behavior, including dress code. As long as it's clearly stated and not applied selectively.

Post by late2part » Sun, Oct 28, 2018, 2:20 PM UTC

expathacker wrote: post #94

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Is simply sticking something in your pocket enough reason for them to kick off? In the UK at least I've been shoving stuff in hoodie pockets if I can't carry it all in my hands. You might occasionally get funny looks but no one has said anything to me, or the other people I know that do it.

Absolutely, in America we tend to assume everybody is out to rob / harm everybody else and are always on guard. Especially if you're young, just having your hands in your pockets will get a store clerk following you around. My parents even taught me as a child to never put your hands in your pockets when in a store.