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Re: Morocco abruptly drops clock change

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Post by trepanne »

toyg wrote: post #49
School-Cotton wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay. Regardless, it is the commonly accepted English spelling (whereas Peking is not), and is not used in Chinese (except in unusual situations). So comparing it to Türkiye vs Turkey makes no sense, which was my point.

It is the word the Chinese would like non-Chinese to use when talking about the city. It’s a classic example of modern cultural re-appropriation, because Peking was the widely-accepted transliteration - until attitudes (and power) changed and the Chinese asked the world to use Beijing instead. It wouldn’t be particularly far-fetched to imagine Turks might also ask the world, eventually, to use their own spelling to r…

> Peking was the widely-accepted transliteration - until attitudes (and power) changed and the Chinese asked the world to use Beijing instead.

An interesting exception is [Peking University](http://english.pku.edu.cn/) which elected (and was permitted) to retain its venerable Romanized style.

Re: Morocco abruptly drops clock change

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Post by gdfasfklshg4 »

nikanj wrote: post #101
cmroanirgo wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As I presume you know, Solar noon represents the highest point of the Sun in the day. It seems fitting that the 'work hours' should be 4 hrs either side of that (8am-4pm). Being a 'sunlover' I'm regularly up before dawn so that I can catch the first rays of Sun as it crosses the horizon. To me it's the most beautiful part of the day. Unfortunately, we have semi-arbitrarily defined 'zones' that fluctuate 1hr because o…

Most working professionals I know are working 9 to 5, not 8 to 4.

This is country dependent. Across the Nordics for example 8 to 4 is very common.

Re: Morocco abruptly drops clock change

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Post by InclinedPlane »

xxpor wrote: post #78
sys_64738 wrote: post #6

I'd also like to see New England move to Atlantic Standard Time. I was there last winter and it got dark before 5pm!

Youd love Seattle, where sunset is at roughly 4:20 in late December. Otoh, it doesn't get truly dark until 10 in June.

Yup. Depending on your working hours you can get up when it's dark, go to work, and it'll be dark outside when you leave.

Re: Morocco abruptly drops clock change

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Post by johnchristopher »

notanote wrote: post #89
alexdumitru wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of Europe will move to winter time tomorrow and also abolish DST and I have the same feelings about it as you. I prefer darker mornings than evenings, as I've never been an early riser.

To clarify, the European Commission had a public consultation on DST[1]. The response was strongly in favour of ending the clock changes, and furthermore favoured permanent DST. The EC has called on member states to come up with an appropriate way of accommodating the public’s preference, telling them to coordinate so that time differences across borders are kept to a sensible minimum. No decision has been made yet t…

It looked like it was about to happen now or in 6 months (last switch) but Austria has asked for a delay to consider how it should implement it and Belgium and the Netherlands are following with that.

So basically I have now lost all hope that we are ever going to drop the switch in this century.

So much for public consultation and Europe being an oppressive administration force (some say it was made on purpose to highlight individual states unwillingness to cooperate).

Re: Morocco abruptly drops clock change

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Post by gsich »

andrepd wrote: post #95
notanote wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To clarify, the European Commission had a public consultation on DST[1]. The response was strongly in favour of ending the clock changes, and furthermore favoured permanent DST. The EC has called on member states to come up with an appropriate way of accommodating the public’s preference, telling them to coordinate so that time differences across borders are kept to a sensible minimum. No decision has been made yet t…

>To clarify, the European Commission had a public consultation on DST A public consultation, conducted online, to which 4 million people (less that 1% of the population of Europe) answered. 3 million of those were from Germany.

And?

Re: Morocco abruptly drops clock change

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Post by gsich »

alexdumitru wrote: post #84
rossdavidh wrote: post #66

The assertion that the countries which do not use DST are "mostly in Africa and Asia" is an odd way to put it. The countries that DO use DST are more of the exception now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time#/media/Fi...

Almost all of Europe will abolish DST this year.

Doubt. It will probably happen, but not that fast.

Re: Morocco abruptly drops clock change

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Post by gsich »

toyg wrote: post #49
School-Cotton wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay. Regardless, it is the commonly accepted English spelling (whereas Peking is not), and is not used in Chinese (except in unusual situations). So comparing it to Türkiye vs Turkey makes no sense, which was my point.

It is the word the Chinese would like non-Chinese to use when talking about the city. It’s a classic example of modern cultural re-appropriation, because Peking was the widely-accepted transliteration - until attitudes (and power) changed and the Chinese asked the world to use Beijing instead. It wouldn’t be particularly far-fetched to imagine Turks might also ask the world, eventually, to use their own spelling to r…

Still "Peking" in german.

Re: Morocco abruptly drops clock change

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Post by stephengillie »

nikanj wrote: post #101
cmroanirgo wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As I presume you know, Solar noon represents the highest point of the Sun in the day. It seems fitting that the 'work hours' should be 4 hrs either side of that (8am-4pm). Being a 'sunlover' I'm regularly up before dawn so that I can catch the first rays of Sun as it crosses the horizon. To me it's the most beautiful part of the day. Unfortunately, we have semi-arbitrarily defined 'zones' that fluctuate 1hr because o…

Most working professionals I know are working 9 to 5, not 8 to 4.

That's only 7 hours. I don't know anyone who only works 9-5. Many either work 8-5 or 9-6.

(Lunches aren't paid, that's a WA State law.)

Re: Morocco abruptly drops clock change

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Post by stephengillie »

azinman2 wrote: post #107
cmroanirgo wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As I presume you know, Solar noon represents the highest point of the Sun in the day. It seems fitting that the 'work hours' should be 4 hrs either side of that (8am-4pm). Being a 'sunlover' I'm regularly up before dawn so that I can catch the first rays of Sun as it crosses the horizon. To me it's the most beautiful part of the day. Unfortunately, we have semi-arbitrarily defined 'zones' that fluctuate 1hr because o…

Except we have more time in the evenings after work than we do in the mornings before work. To me work should be 10-6.

Do you mean 9-6 or 10-7?

I've done a 10-7 shift, it's miserable. Waste half your morning, and half your evening. You have to get ready for work when stores and banks are just opening, and you get home just as those shops are closing.

I prefer 7-4 because it leaves a bit of late afternoon and the whole evening.

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