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That's amazing to me. Not arguing you're wrong, I'm not interviewing people, just amazes me that anyone with degrees in CS would not be able to solve such a basic problem.
You'd be shocked how many people don't know about the modulus operator.
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#142My intuition is that H1B and similar programs hurt my personal compensation as a domestic provider of skilled labor. My reasoning is that less supply of skilled labor should result in increased cost - which gets paid to me. I understand it's better for the companies and perhaps the economy as a whole to import labor, but it seems worse for me. Is there research on this subject or something I'm missing?
The flaw in your intuition is that it believes there's a fixed demand. It's normal for your intuition to think that way — humans are notoriously bad at analyzing higher-order effects. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lump_of_labour_fallacy
There are other effects too of course. Letting in Sergey Brin may have competed down CEO wages (as per theory) but arguably more importantly drove up demand for engineers. Letting in lots of H1B engineers no doubt drives up demand for gardeners & house-cleaners.
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First, there was no "muslim ban", and second the list of countries affected had been defined already by Congress years previous, not the President or the current administration. Also school visas are not immigrant visas if one wants to be pedantic about it.
There is an Iran ban, call it whatever you like. The existence of a list at a certain point in time doesn't mean anything if the current administration is the one that uses it in a policy it created itself. School visas are the foot in the door for young scientists and engineers to employment in the US.
You're being disingenuous in claiming it was motivated by religion. You're incorrect in stating it restricted legal immigration. It stopped immigration by countries deemed a threat to the security of the US by Congress and the previous administration.
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#146I'm NOT summarily against H-1B's but wish to insist they be used ONLY to fill in true skill shortages instead of those manufactured via job ad word-smithing.
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But not a machine to affordably and accurately pick strawberries or citrus, or clean your house and office park. Let’s not pretend that the demand for relatively unskilled work isn’t very high, because the work is perceived to be beneath the dignity or price range or natives. It would be nice if we could benefit from the immigrants willing and able to do this hard and unpleasant work, without also castigating them fo…
gotocake says: "But not a machine to affordably and accurately pick strawberries or citrus": https://www.bing.com/search?q=strawberry+picking+machine&for... gotocake says: "this hard and unpleasant work": http://whvaustralia.net/fruit-picking-hard/ Certainly we don't need to castigate anyone. But we don't need more (illegal or legal) unskilled immigrants taking jobs that will soon be supplanted entirely by automation…
Swiss people clean their own damn homes at a wage which, in India, would justify several servants. This in turn drives a market for Roomba early adopters... but also just for less obvious technology, like houses well-enough sealed against dust.
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#150I also agree with a many Americans who are anti-H1b that it suppresses wages, hence makes it attractive to higher foreign workers, quite often for jobs that are not truly state of the art, but do require the technical know how.
This is why it makes sense for the H1-B to be a highest paid gets first kind of a visa. That way there's a strong incentive to not hire lowest paid employees.
In fact, I think a better way would be to give two 3-year temporary green cards. if at the end of 6th year if the person still has job, it becomes a permanent job. This removes any control that an employer has to depress the wages, and be fair to the American as well as immigrant labour. Such a system can be made available to at least the undergrad/grad/doctoral degree holders from the US universities.
By limiting the immigrant talent, US has already ensure China is taking a huge leap in terms of tech advances. India will figure out how to make the leap soon.
All the while, Canada is making the most of USA's anti high skilled immigrant situation, but inviting them in droves. We'll see a different Canada in the next 5-10 years, mainly due to the huge number of tech immigrants (of Chinese or Indian origin) moving to Canada.