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Tim Cook makes blistering attack on the “data industrial complex”

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I'm always baffled how even the tech-literate crowd here continues to give Apple a pass. This is the same Apple that gave up its encryptions keys to Chinese government for the servers located in China. If it actually had user's privacy in mind, it wouldn't give those up.

I think that’s an over-simplistic view. Failing to adhere to Chinese law would mean exiting the Chinese market. If the US passed a similar law, Apple would be forced to comply with it (although they would at least have recourse through the courts to eventually show that such a law was, perhaps, unconstitutional).

Sure, but when you make blistering attack on "data industrial complex" and advocate privacy, you are held to the golden standard in the entire world.

I personally believe that Apple complied to Chinese government's demands is because their bread and butter is in that country (the entire manufacturing of hardware devices).

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Dubious proposition. Many programmers work to solve political problems through technological means. TOR is an example of this.

You can’t solve a political problem through technological means, you can only provide workarounds. Geeky, awkward workarounds. TOR is an example of this.

Bitcoin shook the world.

Re: Tim Cook makes blistering attack on the “data industrial complex”

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That's exactly the problem I have. I don't want the unblockable ads and spying but I need my phone to be some cheap thing I don't have to respect or worry about. Once I started buying $150 phones every 2-3 years, I realised how much I need a device that I don't lose any sleep over it getting beaten to death and possibly replaced prematurely.

Buy second hand iPhones. A 5S will still run the latest iOS, and with a new battery wont be under “performance management” mode, so it should be quite fast to use.

I'm open to this idea. I discarded it early on because I thought it would either be too expensive or be too "used" to run cleanly for another 3 years.

Are you suggesting some official refurbishment route or just find them on Craigslist or Ebay?

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why not just buy an older device? bought a brand new iPhone se as soon as the new iphones x maxx was announced. mobile phone development as plateaued imo, there is nothing out there you really need unless you're fooling yourself. photos - I bought a nice mirrorless with the money I saved. apps - se runs everything tolerably fast except for snapchat and Instagram, which I've decided to cut down on anyways.comparison i…

This has been my strategy all along. I am always at least two versions below, sometimes more. I still own my iPhone 6, and get all updates. I bought it for 200 bucks, 2 years ago!!

Apple supports old devices well, but app developers seem to have different ideas. I upgraded my SE to an Xs recently, and I had the realization that iOS is not a bug-ridden piece of garbage... it's just that nobody ever tested their app for the SE's screen size and other capabilities. All the apps that I thought were buggy work amazingly on my Xs.

To some extent, I sort of blame Apple here. When you boot up an emulator, it's an iPhone X that you see. If it defaulted to the SE, I bet we'd see more apps that render correctly on its screen. But it doesn't, so we don't.

The faster CPU also eliminates a lot of problems. I am sure I am guilty of writing code that is only viable because I'm running it on a 32 core Xeon machine. So are app developers. The faster the CPU you have, the less likely you the user are to suffer because of their sub-optimal algorithm choice.

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Apple's App Store policies are about far more than app quality or safety. Apple has banned many apps for political or financial reasons. Slowing down old phones without notice or permission wasn't the best response to aging batteries. Even Apple didn't deny it was wrong. They apologized, once they were caught. And the MagSafe connector was not a common failure point.

My problem with your first comment is that you misrepresent the issues. Your second reply is worse because you introduce other different issues, without addressing the point (that Apple chooses compromises that you might disagree with). > Slowing down old phones without notice or permission wasn't the best response to aging batteries. Sure, it wasn't handled well, but you said that they did it to force upgrades... Th…

My second post addressed your claim that these issues are "well-designed compromises" by disproving it with counterexamples.

MagSafe was at once an example of a port changed (MagSafe 1 to 2) and a feature removed (replaced with USB) that didn't fit your explanation "removing a common failure point". Even Apple didn't try to claim that slowing down old phones was a well-designed compromise; instead, they apologized. And there are many examples of Apple removing apps for reasons other than "app quality/safety", for one such example, see my response to sibling reply.

These are not "other different issues", these are counterexamples. They may not be the issues you thought of when you read my first post but they were some of the issues I was thinking of.

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The only problem is that Apple is the Mercedes of mobile devices. We really need a Honda and Kia version, a more affordable device that doesn’t track you. Apple is never going to give up their premium position.

It seems extremely hard to achieve that though. Creating a new smartphone hardware is very difficult and expensive. Creating a new smartphone OS and ecosystem is probably even harder. In order to have a proper "libre" smartphone you'd need to basically do both things. If behemoths like Microsoft couldn't pull it off I'm not sure how a newcomer could. I suppose the best path would be to create a new phone that could e…

https://shop.puri.sm/shop/librem-5/

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The only problem is that Apple is the Mercedes of mobile devices. We really need a Honda and Kia version, a more affordable device that doesn’t track you. Apple is never going to give up their premium position.

It seems extremely hard to achieve that though. Creating a new smartphone hardware is very difficult and expensive. Creating a new smartphone OS and ecosystem is probably even harder. In order to have a proper "libre" smartphone you'd need to basically do both things. If behemoths like Microsoft couldn't pull it off I'm not sure how a newcomer could. I suppose the best path would be to create a new phone that could e…

Agreed. I don’t know what the solution is, data gathering is lucrative enough to completely pervert the mobile device economy. All the margin is gone.

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The only problem is that Apple is the Mercedes of mobile devices. We really need a Honda and Kia version, a more affordable device that doesn’t track you. Apple is never going to give up their premium position.

why not just buy an older device? bought a brand new iPhone se as soon as the new iphones x maxx was announced. mobile phone development as plateaued imo, there is nothing out there you really need unless you're fooling yourself. photos - I bought a nice mirrorless with the money I saved. apps - se runs everything tolerably fast except for snapchat and Instagram, which I've decided to cut down on anyways.comparison i…

That’s my strategy for my family. Especially hand me down devices. My Mom still has my 5S and it’s still supported.

Re: Tim Cook makes blistering attack on the “data industrial complex”

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Dwight Eisenhower's Farewell Address ...

We must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. .... Yet in holding scientific discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.

[ source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eisenhower%27s_farewell_addres... ]

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