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These were supposedly targeted attacks. Why would Bloomberg have access to AWS and Apple internally designed boards?
"It should be taken as fact because I can't prove it." How about no.
There's next to no way that Bloomberg's sources would still have access to the boards, and that should be considered given all of the calls here to see them.
There should be hundreds of thousands or millions of these hacked motherboards, and nobody has found a single one despite hardware geeks worldwide searching like it was Willy Wonka's final golden ticket. This story was bogus, it most likely came from a ton of rumors that got conflated, hence why they had to go with anonymous sources as opposed to any physical evidence. I'd be surprised if Bloomberg has any credibilit…
"There should be hundreds of thousands or millions of these hacked motherboards" No, the boards would be selectively hacked. And we know it happens because 'we' do it as well. Surely there is evidence floating around but it's also unlikely that companies would want to admit the breach. I kind of believe Apple and Amazon though, there's too much risk if they were to be caught lying. This is a weird one ...
No comment is the proper action for no admission. However, Tim Cook and Andy Jassy put out public statements if they were willingly lying, they will be prosecuted by SEC
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Bullshit. Straight from the CIA's NIE, page 9: > High Confidence: > Iraq is continuing, and in some areas is expanding, its chemical, biological, nuclear and missile programs contrary to UN resolution. > Iraq could make a nuclear weapons in months to a year if it acquired sufficient weapons-grade fissile material. https://www.scribd.com/doc/259216899/Iraq-October-2002-NIE-o... I'm not sure where this "the IC is this…
Don't bother trying - its not possible in todays political climate for people to be enlightened as to just how much damage has been done to the world by the 'intelligence' community. The CIA is the #1 source of conflict and trouble in the world - but American citizens have a very hard time with the self-reflection required to see this fact. This is by design: their society has been engineered to allow the secret spoo…
It doesn't work like that... "at least its our guys doing it" isn't some honest maxim we spout off in American fervor. It's akin to Winston knowing that when the 2-minutes-hate starts, whether you are into it or not, you stand up and blend in. Otherwise, those spy masters you mention make your life very uncomfortable, or take it away entirely. We just live here man, you don't think we actually are in charge and can make any difference...do you?
There should be hundreds of thousands or millions of these hacked motherboards, and nobody has found a single one despite hardware geeks worldwide searching like it was Willy Wonka's final golden ticket. This story was bogus, it most likely came from a ton of rumors that got conflated, hence why they had to go with anonymous sources as opposed to any physical evidence. I'd be surprised if Bloomberg has any credibilit…
"There should be hundreds of thousands or millions of these hacked motherboards" No, the boards would be selectively hacked. And we know it happens because 'we' do it as well. Surely there is evidence floating around but it's also unlikely that companies would want to admit the breach. I kind of believe Apple and Amazon though, there's too much risk if they were to be caught lying. This is a weird one ...
That such a potentially damaging allegation has not been met with a more forceful (read: lawyerly) response is "weird". That this dropped in one publication with quite a bit of detail is "weird". The timing of the responses, the rumors of trouble at SuperMicro, the timeframe of the alleged compromised boards. It's all weird.
I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop on this one.
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So if a newspaper wanted evidence that your company fucked up you would go and dismantle company property to discredit your employer knowing that it's likely to damage them and ruin you.
If you want to blow a whistle, yes. If not dismantle, at least photograph the object. If your employer retaliates, you can make good money in speaker fees retelling the story, or get a job at a company that wants to be known for good hardware security.
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> Additionally, the SEC would likely investigate if this did happen The phone companies all denied providing metadata to the NSA when the story first came out. I couldn't find the WaPo article from the same week, which I remembering reading in hardcopy, but here's a cite for the same from NPR: https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=540913... . Did the SEC sue Verizon here?
Yeah I don't think those are really related. Apple was exceptionally clear that this simply didn't happen. Verizon is very careful about how they word that to say they didn't turn them over to the NSA, while omitting all of the other three letter agencies (DIA, FBI, DOJ, etc). Compare that with Apple's statement, which is forcefully blunt and has no wiggle room: On this we can be very clear: Apple has never found mal…
I'm waiting for the libel lawsuit. The absence of one is something I can't reconcile and leads me to thinking perhaps Apple doesn't want to through the discovery process for such a lawsuit which leads me to wonder why they wouldn't...
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That would be politicians who ignored any of the "IC" analysis that contradicted their claims, and made up their own conclusions from dubious sources of "raw" intelligence like Ahmed Chalabi.
Bullshit. Straight from the CIA's NIE, page 9: > High Confidence: > Iraq is continuing, and in some areas is expanding, its chemical, biological, nuclear and missile programs contrary to UN resolution. > Iraq could make a nuclear weapons in months to a year if it acquired sufficient weapons-grade fissile material. https://www.scribd.com/doc/259216899/Iraq-October-2002-NIE-o... I'm not sure where this "the IC is this…
Any reason for these calls for retraction? It's not like there aren't false stories about what happens at Apple or Amazon regularly, not that they're usually about hacking but the public calls for retraction seem somewhat as unique as the story.
You would be sure to see a denial in that case.
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Dodgy firmware is nothing new, it’s just compromised code after all.
According to Bloomberg, that's how everything started: > Apple made its discovery of suspicious chips inside Supermicro servers around May 2015, after detecting odd network activity and firmware problems, according to a person familiar with the timeline. Two of the senior Apple insiders say the company reported the incident to the FBI but kept details about what it had detected tightly held, even internally. Governme…
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If they were instructed to do so by the government they would not really have a choice, which would very likely produce leaks. If true, this is vastly different from the government requesting a backdoor or various warrant canaries, this would be an actual national security threat.
It would also be compelled speech, and from what I've read, > governments have the right to mandate corporate speech “if the information in the disclosure is reasonably related to a substantial governmental interest and is purely factual.” ( https://www.reuters.com/article/us-otc-speech/when-the-gover... ) Since that would not be the case here, I do not believe it would be legally defensible for the government to com…
The government could say "look here, this is an actual national security issue" and Apple, Amazon, etc could say "oh shit, you're right - how can we help?"
If this were a real national security risk, what incentive would Apple, Amazon, etc have to tell divulge the truth rather than cooperating with the government? This is vastly different than saying no to a requested NSA backdoor.