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Ok, "encourage and facilitate"
That would be catastrophic for Bloomberg - if a news org is seen as more interested in protecting its reputation than protecting its sources, no sensitive source would speak to it again. They can easily eat the hit of one potentially bad story. They can't eat the hit of 'dicks around with sources'.
AWS CEO Jassy follows Apple in calling for retraction of Chinese spy chip story
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#112The denials seem convincing. And yet the story seems very much plausible. US NSA does these kinds of attacks, why not China? > They offered no proof, story kept changing, and showed no interest in our answers unless we could validate their theories If that's really the case then it seems likely that their source may have indeed deceived them. But don't they have multiple sources? > The article also claims ... we cond…
The NSA has never done something on this scale. With sec researchers looking at _everything_ right now it would have been uncovered by now. The major point in this story wasn't a hardware hack, it was a hardware hack on a MASSIVE scale, a scale that would have to be treated as an act of war against the _rest of the world_. If this article were true it would have been the first public volley in WWIII.
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#113If it were false the case would fall under libel and slander.
Someone is obfuscating truths here
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#115It's nothing but college age "editors" who are "googling" things and looking at Twitter for content.
I know it'll be an unpopular opinion on here but they are a huge source of bullshit on the internet.
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#116There should be hundreds of thousands or millions of these hacked motherboards, and nobody has found a single one despite hardware geeks worldwide searching like it was Willy Wonka's final golden ticket. This story was bogus, it most likely came from a ton of rumors that got conflated, hence why they had to go with anonymous sources as opposed to any physical evidence. I'd be surprised if Bloomberg has any credibilit…
"There should be hundreds of thousands or millions of these hacked motherboards" No, the boards would be selectively hacked. And we know it happens because 'we' do it as well. Surely there is evidence floating around but it's also unlikely that companies would want to admit the breach. I kind of believe Apple and Amazon though, there's too much risk if they were to be caught lying. This is a weird one ...
What's the logic in this? This is like saying Saudis must be Christians because we are Christians as well
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#119An easy way Bloomberg could support their story: allow one or more of their "senior insider" sources at Apple/Amazon to speak with another outlet (AP, NYT, whoever) who agrees to maintain their anonymity.
How would that actually support anything though? I don't understand how this entire story has any legs without physical evidence. People can say things to multiple people, but that doesn't make what they're saying more true, right?
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> Did anybody saw a weird 6 traces converging at a point for no reason on all the motherboards on the market? You do ask some good questions, but if apple can dropship my one macbook pro from China when I order it, I suspect they could dropship 1 (or many) of these boards to Apple, Amazon, etc when ordered. In other words, they wouldn't have to produce all of them with this special chip. Hell, they might only need to…
You seem to forget how difficult it is to manufacture a single unit of a mother board to achieve the effect you're imagining. Do you really think they have a production line where every week or so they create a different mother board adding this circuit? Why in the world would they create these additional costs, and is it even economically justifiable? This whole story seems each day worse, just like believing in Big…