Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tipping on a digital device (iPad register) also doesn't make sense because the tip money is going straight to the bank account the owner connected to the point of sale software.
It goes to the workers though. Are you claiming that the owners are not distributing them back?
You Want 20% for Handing Me a Muffin? The Awkward Etiquette of iPad Tipping
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#182Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yet strangely, the loudest voices AGAINST doing away with tipping in favor of a wage are often wait staff themselves.
This seems like such a non-issue, I'm not sure why articles are written about tipping. Wait staff love tips because it gets them paid significantly more than if they worked a retail job. After visiting Europe, tips are necessary for good service. The rudeness and lack of service was culture shock.
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#183If anyone here has been to Japan, tipping is handled much more elegantly and with a lot more business integrity. Instead of guilt-tripping customers into tipping, businesses in Japan up their prices if they need more money. I remember once when I was in Osaka I was at a really good sushi place that I had visited several times prior. There was no tip option on the receipt (didn't see it anywhere in Japan) and there wa…
a lot of states have a lower minimum wage for tipped employees. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipped_wage
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#184I don't feel guilt when they swivel that ipad around, more like annoyance. When I'm asked to tip for someone handing me a cup of coffee, I say no tip. We should really be pushing to get away from this relic of slavery, and don't tip unless it's absolutely clear we need to; i.e. at a sit down restaurant.
Ouch, having worked in cafes and restaurants as an undergrad I pretty much always tip 20%. Is it absurd? Of course, but given how badly most waitstaff are paid, the idea that you will somehow eliminate the practice by stiffing a few barristas seems both sadistic and highly unlikely to change the world. Until robots hand me muffins, I accept it as a tax on eating out.
And quite frankly, it's disgusting that the person who spends may 30 seconds providing service gets X% of the bill when 99% of the work is done in the kitchen by guys who don't get paid anything extra.
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This is strange and not at all how I think about tipping. I tip if the service can be a differentiator (servers, bartenders, baristas at smaller coffee shops). If the person is just giving me change and handing me some food/drink and barely interacting with me, a tip really isn't warranted IMO.
Try to think of the tip as less of a "service charge for a job well done" and more of a tax to benefit those who aren't as well paid as you are.
With other jobs (e.g., a cashier), the position is more of an operational necessity for the employer than it is a differentiator for the customer, and in that case, I'd like to see the employer responsible for higher wages even if that means higher prices. I do not see that happening if they are let off the hook by guilt-ridden customers deciding to tip every single employee at every single transaction.
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#186I dislike the tip-at-purchase-time paradigm. I haven't even seen my order yet, how am I supposed to evaluate how much of a tip it warranted? But that gets to the heart of it really: tipping is more about subsidizing payroll than rewarding good service.
Tipping on a digital device (iPad register) also doesn't make sense because the tip money is going straight to the bank account the owner connected to the point of sale software.
What bothers me is the ACH networks still get their cut of the tip (assuming they get a percentage of sale and not a flat rate). No visa, you don't need 5% of the waitress hard work.
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#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tipping on a digital device (iPad register) also doesn't make sense because the tip money is going straight to the bank account the owner connected to the point of sale software.
It goes to the workers though. Are you claiming that the owners are not distributing them back?
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#188Jesus christ, just tip and don't worry about it. You goddamn nerds.
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#189I can understand tips at restaurants for waiters. I cannot understand tips at coffee shops and pizza places without waiters. What is the tip for? Pray tell.
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#190If anyone here has been to Japan, tipping is handled much more elegantly and with a lot more business integrity. Instead of guilt-tripping customers into tipping, businesses in Japan up their prices if they need more money. I remember once when I was in Osaka I was at a really good sushi place that I had visited several times prior. There was no tip option on the receipt (didn't see it anywhere in Japan) and there wa…
No tipping policies in the US will never work as long as tips are untaxed. Otherwise, it is a lose-lose. Diners pay more than with tipping, servers' take-home pay is reduced. That is why most restaurants that have tried no-tipping have gone back to it.
Tipping won't go away until restaurant owners stop being dorks about the whole matter. They also benefit because the unaccounted for tips don't count as income to them, and thus they benefit as well.
The bottom line is, patrons get sticker shock when they see the real price of a meal. This happens when restaurants change prices after a few years because the cost of product goes up, or if they switch to paying a living wage to their employees. If the culture as a whole doesn't switch, then people are just going to keep supporting poor labor practices by the industry because they typically have their own issues to focus on.
>>That is why most restaurants that have tried no-tipping have gone back to it. Citation absolutely needed. Many restaurants have never tried it, and many of the restaurants that have tried it kept it.