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Re: Zuckerberg Faces Anger Over Facebook Executive’s Kavanaugh Support

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Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong - I don't live in America so my facts may be incomplete. 100+ women have come forward for Judge Kavanaugh's character. The sum total of everyone he has worked with during his time as a judge (which is much more relevant than what he did while at parties), have given him glowing endorsements. My opinion is based on evidence, and the presumption of innocence. Those are not fe…

> Justice Ginsberg said she and her husband would move to New Zealand if the Republican candidate became President. That is coming from the reigning liberal champion on the court. Honestly, I think she has set the bar as far as irresponsible partisan remarks are concerned. Earlier today, it was reported that Trump thought that a news clip of an old missile launch was a preemptive nuclear strike by North Korea, and th…

President Trump is democratically elected through a process that everyone bought into until it delivered a result that many did not accept.

There is also a process for the 25th Amendment that addresses dementia and other such concerns, via the White House Physician. Even if you assume that were to happen - President Pence and perhaps Vice President Ted Cruz, would not really change the political climate in the USA, considering a Facebook Executive who attends a hearing is also treated so poorly, I can't imagine President Pence or Vice President Cruz will be treated fairly.

Re: Zuckerberg Faces Anger Over Facebook Executive’s Kavanaugh Support

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Why is there so much political activism inside tech companies? Shouldn't this person actually do something wrong at his job before the mob goes after him? How long before you can't be an executive if you hunt, or eat meat?

People being good at their jobs isn't the only thing that matters if you're working under their direction. Especially if they're also a large part of the company's public image. If people are uncomfortable with their CEO eating meat then they should be free to ask about it and voice their opinions. If the CEO wants to change anything because of that is entirely up to him/her, just like how people are free to resign i…

> Especially if they're also a large part of the company's public image.

Why should an intelligent citizenry judge a company based on the dietary preferences of someone working there? That sounds a lot like judging a religion based on one person's actions, and those kinds of principles must not be entertained in a fair and tolerant society.

Why should an intelligent citizenry not speak up against those who cry outrage for baseless reasons?

Re: Zuckerberg Faces Anger Over Facebook Executive’s Kavanaugh Support

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>>If people are uncomfortable with their CEO eating meat then they should be free to ask about it and voice their opinions. Expecting a person A to change their way of life, for an inconsequential act, because other person B completely irrelevant to A or A action's feels 'uncomfortable', then B has way over stepped in feeling entitled to what they want from life and society. You don't get to dictate what religion som…

You conveniently left out the part just after what you quoted that said: "If the CEO wants to change anything because of that is entirely up to him/her [...]" I didn't say—nor did I mean to imply—that anyone should "change their way of life", "dictate what religion some one[sic] should practice" or "wanting to control other people's life". I said, and I very literally meant, "they should be free to ask about it and v…

Note: I wrote the parent comment for this discussion - not the guy you are replying to, but I wanted to chime in.

In line with what I was saying earlier - when I work, I care about what the folks I am working with are like - at work. At home or in their personal time, they can do whatever they please, it is none of my business.

Why has the culture become such that this seems to be everyone's business? Is it because there is more sharing of people's lives on social media? Not everyone is okay with that. Some people want their personal lives and opinions to be their own. Not everyone has put their life out there for likes and reactions - yet it seems to be the default assumption that people are fair game to be judged for what they do on their own time.

In India, where I live, we constantly fight against a culture that is in favor of moral policing. Just last week a Hindu girl got arrested here for spending time with a Muslim man. The cops were eventually suspended, but that is one example (for the sake of this discussion) of the kinds of problems we have in the culture I live in.

These folks you are talking about aren't simply "voicing an opinion" they are working to destroy this executive's career. They may not be detaining him against his will, but they are like those cops in my country - who are taking action against someone who doesn't share their worldviews in their personal life. Why is this ok?

Re: Zuckerberg Faces Anger Over Facebook Executive’s Kavanaugh Support

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I don't understand this. Kavanaugh hasnt been proven to be guilty. There are credible allegations which demand a further investigation as is being conducted by the FBI. Beyond that apart from his clumsiness at the testimony there isnt much going on against him. If these people are so data driven how come they choose to believe things for which we have no evidence. You may mock him for losing his cool but thats just a…

Kavanaugh didn’t just deny that he committed the assault, he denied drinking, obvious jokes, and pretended to be a church going, sober, virgin. Well, we have loads of evidence that the latter is false throughout high school, college, and law school. If instead of admitting what he did do as in the past, but choosing to lie, not once but repeatedly, baldly, and swearing to god, makes him far, far less credible in deny…

> Well, we have loads of evidence that the latter is false throughout high school, college, and law school

Where is the evidence ? For him to be a virgin, there literally can't be any evidence unless somebody actually watched him (which would be very terrible).

As far as swearing to God goes and being non-drinking and church going, these are things you argue while selecting the class president not a supreme court judge. Why isn't there any talk of his past judgements ?

Re: Zuckerberg Faces Anger Over Facebook Executive’s Kavanaugh Support

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In the context of most supreme court nominees, combined with the amount of contoversy surrounding his appointment yes. Every tier one tech company I ever worked for would not hire someone that caused that much ill will, from a culture perspective. The brand of the supreme court is seen as a wise, impartial, authorative, servant of the people. An imperious, rabidly partisan, agressive, evasive, offended, entitled boy…

Who caused the ill will? The man accused of something he didn't do? Or the Democrats who manufactured a mock trial with all the optics of one and with none of the evidence and due process of one.

Kavanaugh has been a controversial person his entire career.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/the-judicial-jihad-a...

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/jul...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/08/20/oral...

Re: Zuckerberg Faces Anger Over Facebook Executive’s Kavanaugh Support

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You conveniently left out the part just after what you quoted that said: "If the CEO wants to change anything because of that is entirely up to him/her [...]" I didn't say—nor did I mean to imply—that anyone should "change their way of life", "dictate what religion some one[sic] should practice" or "wanting to control other people's life". I said, and I very literally meant, "they should be free to ask about it and v…

Note: I wrote the parent comment for this discussion - not the guy you are replying to, but I wanted to chime in. In line with what I was saying earlier - when I work, I care about what the folks I am working with are like - at work. At home or in their personal time, they can do whatever they please, it is none of my business. Why has the culture become such that this seems to be everyone's business? Is it because t…

>>Why has the culture become such that this seems to be everyone's business?

Mostly because any movement, when it becomes a little bigger gets crowded by gold diggers. And from there on its just people's selfish motives at play.

Politics, and even office politics is all about this.

>>In India, where I live, we constantly fight against a culture that is in favor of moral policing.

Indian here, I entirely agree. Entitlement in the India society, especially related to social influence is just too much to bear at times.

Re: Zuckerberg Faces Anger Over Facebook Executive’s Kavanaugh Support

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Kavanaugh didn’t just deny that he committed the assault, he denied drinking, obvious jokes, and pretended to be a church going, sober, virgin. Well, we have loads of evidence that the latter is false throughout high school, college, and law school. If instead of admitting what he did do as in the past, but choosing to lie, not once but repeatedly, baldly, and swearing to god, makes him far, far less credible in deny…

> Well, we have loads of evidence that the latter is false throughout high school, college, and law school Where is the evidence ? For him to be a virgin, there literally can't be any evidence unless somebody actually watched him (which would be very terrible). As far as swearing to God goes and being non-drinking and church going, these are things you argue while selecting the class president not a supreme court jud…

The disrespect he showed to numerous Senators, and the numver of questions he refused to answer, should alone be enough to disqualify him.

Re: Zuckerberg Faces Anger Over Facebook Executive’s Kavanaugh Support

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The ABA actually endorsed him, and that carries a great deal more weight than what a bunch of law professors say. Again, partisans being partisan. Maybe you've never been accused of something like what Judge Kavanaugh was accused of. In general, his defense was relatively rational and composed for what it was. And the comments about the democrats and the Clintons was probably correct -- he knows where all the bodies…

> The ABA actually endorsed him All I can find on the ABA's position on Kavanaugh is that they called for an investigation, and that they're reevaluating their position on him given his temperament. https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/oct/5/american-bar... And also this from before: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/american-b... > I'm not a democrat or a republican by the way I got that, and ne…

> the way you talk. It's unsettling. Cultish.

I couldn’t agree more.

Re: Zuckerberg Faces Anger Over Facebook Executive’s Kavanaugh Support

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> Well, we have loads of evidence that the latter is false throughout high school, college, and law school Where is the evidence ? For him to be a virgin, there literally can't be any evidence unless somebody actually watched him (which would be very terrible). As far as swearing to God goes and being non-drinking and church going, these are things you argue while selecting the class president not a supreme court jud…

The disrespect he showed to numerous Senators, and the numver of questions he refused to answer, should alone be enough to disqualify him.

Are the senators expected to show any respect to the nominee?

Re: Zuckerberg Faces Anger Over Facebook Executive’s Kavanaugh Support

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Is it extremist to support Kavanaugh?

Women must always be believed! Everything else is an extremist sexist view, enforced my old white cis males in powerful positions! /s

Please don't do this here.
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