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You're starting to realize that not all cultures are that great. >I think it’s more that you’ve valued the low per unit price over having a healthy contract. Well, when the choice is to either play ball or go out of business, it's not a tough decision.
> You're starting to realize that not all cultures are that great. What measures a culture's greatness? How can this value be empirically deduced?
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Wait a minute... So your company has a Chinese equipment supplier, finds out that the supplier is tampering with your purchased equipment, and your solution is to add criteria to the incoming inspection? No wonder China keeps screwing with you guys. You aren't supposed to eat that cost! Write a PO with tons of fine print that says "We will disassembly units at random for compliance inspection. Non compliant products…
There were other considerations like the fact we were actually buing it from large reputable company and what happened was that some employees were doing it with no involvement of the company. The fact is, doing any kind of hardware production in China, you have to be aware Chineese have different value system and you would not be suited doing any business if you throw tantrum at any sign of apparent dishonesty (assu…
after the 1st device found, you should have contacted the manufacturer and said that you will start a department that has the capability of opening the device, inspecting and re-sealing in a way that it won't impact any guarantee the factory provides. If they denied this very sensible request, you had proof that it wasn't a isolated employee doing the hack.
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You're starting to realize that not all cultures are that great. >I think it’s more that you’ve valued the low per unit price over having a healthy contract. Well, when the choice is to either play ball or go out of business, it's not a tough decision.
> You're starting to realize that not all cultures are that great. That's sounding pretty racist
If we define "a culture" as set of sociological customs, value systems, expected behaviours and stimuli/response criteria; and if we define "culture greatness" as such sociological customs, value systems, and behaviours that lead to specified and asserted goals;
than one can reasonably compare and contrast cultures in meeting (or even striving) to these goals, and thus discuss their greatness.
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About that, I can only say that Chinese android POSes do everything in software, for sure, without any hsm present. The question is, how Chinese banks coax Visa into allowing them using them.
Probably it just goes through as a card not present (CNP) transaction?
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Canadian steel is considered by this administration to be a national security risk. But Chinese made boards and chips installed in weapons systems and crucial data centers? No problem. Let that sink in for a moment. https://www.wsj.com/articles/dont-trust-the-chinese-to-make-...
The thing being called a national security risk is a lack of domestic production capability. No one is saying Canadian steel is sabotaged or something.
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You're starting to realize that not all cultures are that great. >I think it’s more that you’ve valued the low per unit price over having a healthy contract. Well, when the choice is to either play ball or go out of business, it's not a tough decision.
> You're starting to realize that not all cultures are that great. What measures a culture's greatness? How can this value be empirically deduced?
the value of civic participation and honesty
trust
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>Seriously, why are we still outsourcing chip manufacturing to other countries? I actually agree it might be better for the Americans to manufacture things in America - especially things used in critical government systems. But this seems like a human problem - if all the factories were moved to America, couldn't those factory managers etc also be bribed? American manufacturing in the 60s was rife with unions w/ ties…
Business culture is different in the US and China. If you tamper a chip in China and go unnoticed you are considered smart & the winner. If you do so here you'll be getting a more negative reaction.
Trust alignment of incentives, as opposed to hey-they-promised-an-actually-impossible-pricepoint-on-paper.
First, we have allegations of Google building an email communications system in North Korea which was assumed to be outside of the each of the spying apparatus of Five Eyes. This system was allegedly designed for the corrupt elements within the US and within the global elite to be able to communicate beyond the reach of the NSA. The "wild conspiracy theory" is that this faction planned to start a nuclear war and would skip off to NK and other designated safe zones (Kazakhstan?) to ride out the war and its aftermath while we all burned. This is also why we got all those media stories about the elite building private bunkers and hidey-holes in New Zealand and other far off places. They all knew or had ideas about what was planned for "regular people."
Next, we have this story about Chinese bugging all these computers. This was how they were going to seize control of key systems at key times in order to take control. They had already done it--the missile warning in Hawaii? Military aircraft losses? Other compromised systems?
We know the Clintons sold nuclear secrets to China. We also know they in general aided and abetted Chinese intelligence operations. We just don't know what they sold out, other than an email server that they allowed spies to log in to in order to read classified information. But that was just the tip of a very large iceberg.
My suspicion is that corrupt elements in our own intelligence agencies did the bugging of all these computers and when they got caught red-handed, it is all "compartmentalize, burn bags, deny, blame shift to China." Truth is, China could not have pulled this off without inside help.
Now we know what all those payments to the Clinton Foundation were for.
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How much do you think you would have to pay them to make it worth their while to not use cheap components (so as not to risk losing you as a customer)? It’s amazing how people never consider using economics. Edit: But let’s not get away from the matter at hand. The issue wasn’t cheap components, it was full-on credit skimmers installed in yor hardware (IIRC). Should be easier to incentivize the conpany into halting t…
As somebody else noted: it doesn't have to be the company that does it, but a lower level employee who cuts a deal. So paying the company more wouldn't solve the issue completely. All of these things are extremely cost sensitive. Your suggestion that people don't consider using economics is simply wrong. If you can manufacture a million pieces for a few cent less per piece, and the only negative is having to paying a…