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What would you recommend Israel do when Hamas's charter literally says that they what to destroy Israel and the Jews? Hamas is Gaza's elected party and letting them import weapons is very bad for Israeli civilians.
The only solution for the Gaza-Israel crisis is mutual destruction.
Gaza: Coding in a conflict zone
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#92That's an incredible article. It must have taken some amazing mental gymnastics to talk about the situation in Gaza and Palestine without laying any responsibility at the feet of Israel. Instead the Israeli stance is noted as being the same as Egypt, or the same as the EU. Lets be clear, Israel's behaviour marks it out as an exception internationally. Israel has turned Gaza into an open air prison. Israel's blockade…
The mental gymnastics here are required for the other side too, e.g. elections were last held in Gaza in 2006 or so; it's not remotely a democracy or republic, control is maintained by violence, see e.g. [0]. Every side of this conflict is a villain, and depending how far back you want to go, that may include the British, who created war and instability where they pulled out, in Palestine and in India/Pakistan (smart…
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
The mental gymnastics here are required for the other side too, e.g. elections were last held in Gaza in 2006 or so; it's not remotely a democracy or republic, control is maintained by violence, see e.g. [0]. Every side of this conflict is a villain, and depending how far back you want to go, that may include the British, who created war and instability where they pulled out, in Palestine and in India/Pakistan (smart…
Its an open air prison under daily siege from Israel and the first out of your mouth is hurr durr democracy
Re: Gaza: Coding in a conflict zone
#94That's an incredible article. It must have taken some amazing mental gymnastics to talk about the situation in Gaza and Palestine without laying any responsibility at the feet of Israel. Instead the Israeli stance is noted as being the same as Egypt, or the same as the EU. Lets be clear, Israel's behaviour marks it out as an exception internationally. Israel has turned Gaza into an open air prison. Israel's blockade…
Sir, gently revoke thyself from this thread with your blatant antisemitism/antizionisn.
That's not what padraic7a posted, you can't do personal attacks here, and since it looks like you created this account just to do flamewar, I've banned it too.
Re: Gaza: Coding in a conflict zone
#95Having worked closely with GSG for the last few years and done 2 trips there to mentor and host workshops, I would encourage anybody who has the time and interest in sharing their knowledge to reach out to them and help them. As the saying goes that constraint breeds creativity, I have never meet a more energetic, enthusiastic bunch of people who just want to make themselves useful and build something that they can b…
Be more precise. What kinda help they need? I aint got money, are they still enthusiatic about taking non-monetary help? Or is the help in such case simply reduced to "well contact them and ask them if they need anything" (in this case I can tell you their answer even without bothering to email them: "nah, we only need money bruh")? I assure you that I dont have nothing against Gaza and its inhabitants, what irritate…
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The border with Egypt is walled. The wall also extends underground to prevent smuggling. The Gaza strip cannot be accessed by air or sea either.
Are you suggesting that the border with Egypt should allow smuggling? The point is that it is a border with Egypt, not Israel. Goods can (and do) enter from there.
No, I am not. I am describing that wall.
> Goods can (and do) enter from there.
No, they don't. Only people are allowed through the Gaza/Egypt border (controlled by the EU).
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#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
The mental gymnastics here are required for the other side too, e.g. elections were last held in Gaza in 2006 or so; it's not remotely a democracy or republic, control is maintained by violence, see e.g. [0]. Every side of this conflict is a villain, and depending how far back you want to go, that may include the British, who created war and instability where they pulled out, in Palestine and in India/Pakistan (smart…
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There was no and there is no ethnic cleansing (though Hamas is definitely publicly declaring its intention to eliminate the Jews from Israel)
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Sure, but you didn't answer the question. Even if Hamas and even Gaza are totally Israel's fault, the fact that Hamas wants to destroy Israel makes some of Israel's actions pretty damn rational. What else can they do? "Shit, we pushed these Palestinians way too hard for way too long. Fair enough, they can bomb the shit out of our country now". All that said, I'm not invested in the matter, and I'm a geopolitics noob,…
Exactly. For all of Hamas' talk, it's not only reactive, it also results in a disproportionately small level of anti-Israel violence in practice due mostly to lack of resources (comparatively). If Israel withdrew all restrictions unilaterally, would there be offensive actions by Hamas: almost certainly. But they'd likely be on a scale many orders of magnitude smaller than Israel's actions to date, and I doubt they'd…
"would there be offensive actions by [al qaeda]: almost certainly. But they'd likely be on a scale many orders of magnitude smaller than [US's actions in Afghanistan] to date, and I doubt they'd be sustained"
I hope I'll never live in a country that will allow their citizens to die in order to appease some murderous religious group.
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Are you suggesting that the border with Egypt should allow smuggling? The point is that it is a border with Egypt, not Israel. Goods can (and do) enter from there.
> Are you suggesting that the border with Egypt should allow smuggling? No, I am not. I am describing that wall. > Goods can (and do) enter from there. No, they don't. Only people are allowed through the Gaza/Egypt border (controlled by the EU).
Though I think your data is not up to date the important fact remains the same: Israel does not control that border. Talking about the embrago and selectivly only mentioning Israel is a curious thing and to me it seems biased against that non-EU non-muslim state.