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Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by wink »

dogecoinbase wrote: post #112
meguest wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this sarcasm?

Presumably, but they have a poorly-articulated point -- Cloudflare has an incredible potential for (even unintentional) destructive effect based on their extreme consolidation and centralization of internet technologies. I think a terrific example of this is when they put a DNS server on 1.1.1.1 (in historically unused address space which was assigned to APNIC for research purposes), got a certificate for the IP addr…

Yeah, that's also why I don't like this. Cloudflare showed a lot of positive things, but also what you just mentioned. Centralization and the 1.1.1.1 preload thing. Cloudbleed was bad, but I'm not sure it wasn't just "a bug" like every big company had, this just happened to have a big fallout.

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by TheAceOfHearts »

conradev wrote: post #133
ksec wrote: post #24

I wouldn't have cared much about Domain Name Register just a week ago, but after what happen at Zoho, and all the horror story in the comments section from namecheap and others, Cloudflare Registar couldn't come at a better time. I really wish Cloudflare at least made $1 or $2 Gross Profits per domain. Who paids for Domain Register Support? I would much rather be a "customer" than I am not sure where they are making…

Interesting that no one here has mentioned Google Domains: - It has no up-sells - I trust Google's security more than Cloudflare's - It has decent customer support, unlike some of Google's other products

Last time I looked at their Terms of Service it appeared that losing your Google account would cause you to lose access to all services. It's not good to put all your eggs in one basket. With that being said, I've used Google Domains as well and haven't had any issues with it.

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by bogomipz »

dogecoinbase wrote: post #112
meguest wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this sarcasm?

Presumably, but they have a poorly-articulated point -- Cloudflare has an incredible potential for (even unintentional) destructive effect based on their extreme consolidation and centralization of internet technologies. I think a terrific example of this is when they put a DNS server on 1.1.1.1 (in historically unused address space which was assigned to APNIC for research purposes), got a certificate for the IP addr…

Thank you for articulating these points, agreed. They seem to have an insatiable desire to "become" the internet. I also find it bazaar that their CTO submits every single one of their blog posts to HN. This is the 16th Cloudflare blog post they've posted to HN this week. You would think they might have a marketing budget.

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by Shank »

triodan wrote: post #145
Ajedi32 wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And, perhaps more importantly, Cloudflare admitted that was a mistake and promised that it wouldn't happen again. (IIRC.)

Can you quote a source for that? I'd very much like the assurance for a claim like that.

Yep! Here you go: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/08/cloudflare-ceo-t...

Matthew Prince is a human like everybody else, and honestly, I would rather have him guarding my back than a lot of other tech CEOs.

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by [deleted] »

zackbloom wrote: post #17
johnklos wrote: post #14

While Cloudflare appears to be doing things that are meant to help everyday people, I can't help but be suspicious. This is an organization that sticks with the "we don't host" bullshit line when web sites serve up Trojans which pretend to be Adobe Flash installers. While there's more subjectivity involved with dealing with hosting the content of spammers, there is zero subjectivity involved with clear and obvious ph…

I appreciate that these decisions can seem easy, but broadly do you want a private company deciding what can be on the internet, or do you want that decision made by a judge with due process?

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Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by Nerada »

zackbloom wrote: post #148
Nerada wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any chance of allowing more TLDs for the registration process? My TLD of choice for e-mail (.Industries) is considered illegitimate when attempting to register for Cloudflare.

Can you contact our support team? All legitimate TLDs should be able to register on Cloudflare.

Is there an e-mail? I tried looking, but the contact form I found required me to register, and thus looping back to my original problem.

Could it be I'm using an alias of Cloudflare@mydomain.industries?

Edit: Attempting "cf@domain.industries" and receiving the same error. Assuming you're accepting .industries registrations, it could very well be my corporate firewall blocking requests to something. I'll attempt again this evening from home.

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by _jomo »

dogecoinbase wrote: post #150
_jomo wrote: post #149

I wonder why nobody has mentioned Njalla [0] yet. >We want to keep things simple and we're not trying to compete on price but security. We will never be the cheapest domain name registration service but we'll always be the most privacy centered one You sign up with email or XMPP+OTR, they send mails PGP signed + encrypted (using info from key server or the key you uploaded), they have app based (TOTP) 2FA and they ac…

I like and use Njalla, but you should be aware of what you're getting into: > When you purchase a domain name through Njalla, we own it for you. However, the agreement between us grants you full usage rights to the domain. It's not at all unlikely that they will eventually be shut down very hard. Please do not use them (or, as long as I'm here, any ccTLD, but that's another story) for any serious/long-term purpose.

Who would shut them down? Is this something the ICANN prohibits? Is ICANN even involved here, as Njalla is (to my knowledge) not an ICANN-accredited registrar? They simply buy the domains from an actual registrar and let you use them.

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by Shank »

aestetix wrote: post #124
aestetix wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except that Cloudflare terminated Daily Stormer after allowing terrorist groups to operate under the guise of "free speech": https://www.firstpost.com/tech/news-analysis/cloudflare-and-...

Can anyone explain why they downvoted me instead of just downvoting?

I didn’t, but I can provide some advice since I see this type of comment and nobody really gets advice on this kind of thing. Your comment wasn’t inflammatory — it was factual. However, it only contained a fact, and in that fact, the wording sounded like you were being not only factual, but perhaps a little too stuck to your guns.

Controversial comments on HN are generally appreciated as long as they have both commentary and supporting evidence. The commentary part is key. Many of us have read HN for years and are very well aware of these events. Thus, posting about them isn’t news to us — it’s just noise. A new take on it or an interpretation from you is always welcome, but just “spreading the news,” is somewhat the antithesis of Hacker News in the comments.

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by Operyl »

_jomo wrote: post #157
dogecoinbase wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like and use Njalla, but you should be aware of what you're getting into: > When you purchase a domain name through Njalla, we own it for you. However, the agreement between us grants you full usage rights to the domain. It's not at all unlikely that they will eventually be shut down very hard. Please do not use them (or, as long as I'm here, any ccTLD, but that's another story) for any serious/long-term purpose.

Who would shut them down? Is this something the ICANN prohibits? Is ICANN even involved here, as Njalla is (to my knowledge) not an ICANN-accredited registrar? They simply buy the domains from an actual registrar and let you use them.

I think in the context of that, they were thinking about governments.

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by partiallypro »

_JamesA_ wrote: post #126

This is great. I have used Namecheap as a registrar and Cloudflare as DNS for many years. I just registered for Early Access and was placed in Wave 1 estimated for Mid-October. I happily donated to Girls Who Code anyway.

I am a customer of Namecheap and Cloudflare too, and though I'm a happy Cloudflare customer, Namecheap has given me no reason to leave.

That being said, the company I work for I think I will begin transferring over to Cloudflare as a registrar, simply because we have hundreds of sites already on Cloudflare's NS, and moving them over to Cloudflare is much easier to sell than moving them over to Namecheap, which is something I had pitched but could never justify.

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