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Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

#101
I have a number of domains with Namecheap and these comments are worrying me. Thinking about moving over but is there an easy way to port all records? Some of domains have multiple txt and mx records associated with them and a bunch of other values that would be a pain to manually rezone.

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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post #77

While I'm sure few of us would have controversial domains, let's remember that Cloudflare have removed the DNS records of sites that they didn't like in the past[0]. [0] - https://blog.cloudflare.com/why-we-terminated-daily-stormer/

That's misleading. They removed the records of one site. Not "sites". And they did it because that site was claiming that CloudFlare providing them services meant that CloudFlare secretly supported their (hate-based) ideology.

And it's also worth pointing out that CloudFlare wasn't the only company terminating services for Storm Front. GoDaddy dropped them, then Google dropped them (and their YouTube account), then Tucows dropped them after just a few hours, and then finally CloudFlare dropped them.

Or to put it another way, CloudFlare has dropped one single site. Pretty much any other competing service will have dropped numerous sites. CloudFlare's dropping of The Daily Stormer is really only interesting in that it was a violation of CloudFlare's previously-stated policies of only dropping clients that are breaking the law.

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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post #99
post #77

While I'm sure few of us would have controversial domains, let's remember that Cloudflare have removed the DNS records of sites that they didn't like in the past[0]. [0] - https://blog.cloudflare.com/why-we-terminated-daily-stormer/

Very true, but the risk of using them should be weighed against the risk of not using them. Don't forget that pretty much all other registrars were much more eager than Cloudflare to shut down Daily Stormer, and expose you to Zoho-type risk that Cloudflare claims to mitigate.

Except that Cloudflare terminated Daily Stormer after allowing terrorist groups to operate under the guise of "free speech":

https://www.firstpost.com/tech/news-analysis/cloudflare-and-...

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

#105
I would never use Cloudflare. They hide spammers and refuse to do anything about them. The same mass spammer will register site after site for months, sending snowshoe spam, and cloudflare refuses to do anything. At one point this was taking up about 80% of our incoming spam, and most of it was getting through spam filters due to the snowshoeing. You could see the same registration info for hundreds of domains over months, all sending spam, but cloudflare doesn't give a shit.

The only solution I found was to put a 15 minute delay on all incoming email from a cloudflare domain, then do a second check of the blacklists. This solved the problem, as the sending ips (not cloudflare) tended to get blacklisted within 15 minutes.

In my mind if you're hiding people's websites behind your "cloud", you have a responsibility to kick off the spammers.

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

#106

While Cloudflare appears to be doing things that are meant to help everyday people, I can't help but be suspicious. This is an organization that sticks with the "we don't host" bullshit line when web sites serve up Trojans which pretend to be Adobe Flash installers. While there's more subjectivity involved with dealing with hosting the content of spammers, there is zero subjectivity involved with clear and obvious ph…

On the contrary, decisions by not-my-actual-server-host to get involved in content disputes is what would drive me away as a customer. What having the tiniest modicum of common sense would tell you is that holding each middleman responsible for content they pass through is ridiculous. It is definitely a way to enforce a level of censorship that didn't work when you went to the true source of the data. Hosting someone…

These things are not connected. You're a customer of Cloudflare by choice. If you use Cloudflare to hide your nefarious activities, then you SHOULD be inconvenienced by Cloudflare. Otherwise, you deserve no privacy so people can contact you / your actual provider properly.

Building a keyboard is one thing. Providing ongoing services for illegal activity is something entirely different. You're being disingenuous by trying to conflate those two things.

If someone hosts illegal / abusive content, then anyone that person pays to facilitate that content should be obligated to do something about that content when that party is made aware.

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

#107

I would never use Cloudflare. They hide spammers and refuse to do anything about them. The same mass spammer will register site after site for months, sending snowshoe spam, and cloudflare refuses to do anything. At one point this was taking up about 80% of our incoming spam, and most of it was getting through spam filters due to the snowshoeing. You could see the same registration info for hundreds of domains over m…

Cloudflare only layers http https traffic. Mail it's exposed, no layer by cloudflare.

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems like it was just a handful of users who posted their story multiple times. The users highclass, ethanwillis, kweks all had multiple comments only about namecheap on a thread that wasn't directly about namecheap. Can I get more horror stories to confirm those are real? It's unfortunate because namecheap used to have the exact opposite reputation: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3396606

I was one of the upvoted posters there. TLDR: I was issued couriered C&Ds to a postal and email address only used on Namecheap. The attacking party had no court order, subpoena, judgement, etc. Ted from namecheap asked me to email him. He confirmed legal had received the complaints, but said they hadn't replied. He hasn't replied to my email since (3 days ago) to offer any explanation how the attacking lawyers got de…

Hey, I just replied to your email. Wasn't ignoring you just wanted to get all of the facts.

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

#109

While Cloudflare appears to be doing things that are meant to help everyday people, I can't help but be suspicious. This is an organization that sticks with the "we don't host" bullshit line when web sites serve up Trojans which pretend to be Adobe Flash installers. While there's more subjectivity involved with dealing with hosting the content of spammers, there is zero subjectivity involved with clear and obvious ph…

I appreciate that these decisions can seem easy, but broadly do you want a private company deciding what can be on the internet, or do you want that decision made by a judge with due process?

Fake Adobe Flash update web sites are outside of the scope of subjectivity when it comes to free speech. Or would you like to assert otherwise?

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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I wouldn't have cared much about Domain Name Register just a week ago, but after what happen at Zoho, and all the horror story in the comments section from namecheap and others, Cloudflare Registar couldn't come at a better time. I really wish Cloudflare at least made $1 or $2 Gross Profits per domain. Who paids for Domain Register Support? I would much rather be a "customer" than I am not sure where they are making…

I though namecheap was one of the better ones around? I'm looking for a domain registrar. Could share the link with namecheap horror stories? Thanks

Namecheap is crappy even in the day-to-day context. I had a domain that I had registered with them for about 3-4 years. Suddenly I started getting notices that I needed to verify my contact information, due to their policies about "new" domain registration. Every time they sent the reminder, the deadline moved back accordingly. Only it didn't - the domain was shut down on the first date.

Even transferring out was a hassle. I had privacy service, and namecheap sends the confirmation email to the proxy address, and not your actual contact address. They also spam filter the service so aggressively that you won't receive their transfer confirmations...sent FROM namecheap. Luckily, the transfer completed at the end of the window.

Their hosted email stinks, too. They spam filter it pretty hard and nothing you can do can effectively whitelist emails.

My impression is that they focus on not doing anything actively evil too often, and respond to just enough social media posts to give the impression they're responsive.

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