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Facebook Is Giving Advertisers Access To Your Shadow Contact Information

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Re: Facebook Is Giving Advertisers Access To Your Shadow Contact Information

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What's facebook's boiling point? My guess is they'll respond, they'll no longer use 2FA #'s for ads, the damage will have been done, and 99% of the population won't know any of it occurred. We'll repeat this cycle when a fresh revelation occurs months from now, as facebook continues to test how much they can leverage for more ad revenue. But none of it is actually slowing FB down. Its biggest dip in value came from d…

> most people remain unaware that FB owns both WhatsApp and IG I am not surprised. If you let Google autocomplete the search "is facebook o" for you, you'll find these autocomplete results in order: 1. is facebook owned by google 2. is facebook on roku 3. is facebook over 4. is facebook offline 5. is facebook overvalued ... 10. is facebook on its way out Seriously, people? "Is Facebook owned by Google?". AFAIK most p…

The best one is 'is facebook and twitter owned by the same person'.

Re: Facebook Is Giving Advertisers Access To Your Shadow Contact Information

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What's facebook's boiling point? My guess is they'll respond, they'll no longer use 2FA #'s for ads, the damage will have been done, and 99% of the population won't know any of it occurred. We'll repeat this cycle when a fresh revelation occurs months from now, as facebook continues to test how much they can leverage for more ad revenue. But none of it is actually slowing FB down. Its biggest dip in value came from d…

I think platforms like Facebook depend on being "cool" over some demographic. Then other demographics adopt it, time passes, other demographics grow tired of the same old Facebook look their parents also used, and Facebook starts to die. We've seen this as well with other social networks like hi5, myspace, that once dominated entire continents as the preferred social website. Of course they are smart and competent pe…

This is a very good point. In particular kids wouldn’t be caught dead on a network their parents (and other elderly relatives) are on.

I suspect Facebook knows this and will keep acquiring new platforms when they can.

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Orwells final warning is chilling and beautiful, in a some kind of perverse metaphorical sense it's strangely relevant to the future of the Brave new world that we are "faced with": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIoAX5bI6S0 edit: typo

George Orwell didn't write Brave New World, though.

I haven't said that he did, I just meant things probably won't be completely Orwellian.

Re: Facebook Is Giving Advertisers Access To Your Shadow Contact Information

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I honestly wish sites would use client side certs or auth via a private key.

Client side certs mean now every user has a verifiable identity. Maybe you're OK with Facebook knowing your full ID, but is it also OK to tell Grindr, Redtube and Amazon? Security Keys are better here. The security key can prove to a site that its the same one as before. "Before what?" Well that's up to the site. In most cases it's going to register one or more keys when you sign up to the site, and then check you st…

You can always generate a new key pair though. I don't necessarily mean a cert signed by a CA. More akin to use a key pair for SSH.

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Simple: delete your Facebook account. Many of us already have. Nothing will send a stronger message than people doing this en masse. Even if they don't get the message or don't care, it's the only way to protect yourself from their never-ending privacy violations.

This. Though I will say, in my opinion tech companies are more or less wild animals we pretend are domesticated. Nothing is free. Facebook continues to do good for people. Twitter as well. These are invaluable communication channels for many people. I imagine this problem will get fixed about the same time my physical spam mail stops arriving. I'm not holding my breath, given that I can _say_ something to my wife in…

> Whether you love or hate Microsoft for $6.99/mo you can get Office, (decently private) email, cloud storage, and Skype. Hate Skype? Don't blame you but from there you can get a phone number that you can give out and keep your personal number just for family/emergencies.

Microsoft compromises the security and privacy of all of their online services, including Skype, Outlook.com, and Hotmail: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/11/microsoft-nsa-...

A much better alternative is to give your money to independent telephony providers that run on, and support, Free Software: https://jmp.chat/

Re: Facebook Is Giving Advertisers Access To Your Shadow Contact Information

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What's facebook's boiling point? My guess is they'll respond, they'll no longer use 2FA #'s for ads, the damage will have been done, and 99% of the population won't know any of it occurred. We'll repeat this cycle when a fresh revelation occurs months from now, as facebook continues to test how much they can leverage for more ad revenue. But none of it is actually slowing FB down. Its biggest dip in value came from d…

I told my girlfriend about this just now, and she said "omg, they do?!", and went right back to her phone. Probably to check Facebook or Instagram. Which is the reaction most people will have, I'm guessing.

Out of respect for you said "omg, they do", I reckon.

Re: Facebook Is Giving Advertisers Access To Your Shadow Contact Information

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What's facebook's boiling point? My guess is they'll respond, they'll no longer use 2FA #'s for ads, the damage will have been done, and 99% of the population won't know any of it occurred. We'll repeat this cycle when a fresh revelation occurs months from now, as facebook continues to test how much they can leverage for more ad revenue. But none of it is actually slowing FB down. Its biggest dip in value came from d…

> most people remain unaware that FB owns both WhatsApp and IG I am not surprised. If you let Google autocomplete the search "is facebook o" for you, you'll find these autocomplete results in order: 1. is facebook owned by google 2. is facebook on roku 3. is facebook over 4. is facebook offline 5. is facebook overvalued ... 10. is facebook on its way out Seriously, people? "Is Facebook owned by Google?". AFAIK most p…

True. The other day I was talking to my cousin and the conversation was something like:

— Facebook copied Snapchat's functionality on all their platforms.

— Instagram and Whatsapp copied it too.

— Yeah, that's what I meant by all their platforms.

— They're owned by Facebook?

She uses Instagram and Whatsapp everyday!

Re: Facebook Is Giving Advertisers Access To Your Shadow Contact Information

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What's facebook's boiling point? My guess is they'll respond, they'll no longer use 2FA #'s for ads, the damage will have been done, and 99% of the population won't know any of it occurred. We'll repeat this cycle when a fresh revelation occurs months from now, as facebook continues to test how much they can leverage for more ad revenue. But none of it is actually slowing FB down. Its biggest dip in value came from d…

A reminder that if you work for Facebook you are fully complicit. Especially if you're an engineer, there should be no shortage of jobs available to you at this time. There is no excuse to work for a company that's sole focus is exploitation of its users.
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