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Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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Post by unethical_ban »

andreasvc wrote: post #56
windexh8er wrote: post #26

I'm surprised this is the top slot right now. Troy, generally, puts out interesting info on security related news however this feels a bit minimal. Since the project has been around a number of years now, and it's not relegated to only a RPi I would have expected him to delve into things a bit more. Pi-hole will also break things. I think the common one I always heard from users on my network at home were that Google…

The simplest approach is to use a hosts file: https://someonewhocares.org/hosts/

The issue with that is DNS resolution. I noticed that when I disconnect/reconnect my interface, it took >30 seconds for DNS resolution to properly resolve. Why? Because I was using a 65,000 entry host file on my modern Windows 10 machine.

It seems to only impact during NIC changes, but I VPN and was moving my computer enough that it was causing me issue.

I'd rather have a separate service to run it.

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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Post by sbr464 »

Is it possible to chain DNS servers or do multiple lookups for one request? For example, a dns server that specializes in malware/antivirus checks, and one that blocks ads etc?

I realize it's not performant, but it makes it hard to choose a dns provider when several have different features you like.

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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Post by DavideNL »

ethagnawl wrote: post #187
admax88q wrote: post #167

Why are our devices so far outside our own control that we need to run an additional device on our networks to help prevent them from making unwanted network requests? The whole approach of Pi-hole feels misguided. Blacklisting domains and hosts should be something easily done on my device locally. Then it comes with me when I visit friends or coffee shops, and it's easy to temporarily disable when it breaks somethin…

Surprisingly, I've yet to see a service which fronts Pi-Hole or similar and allows you to point your DNS resolver(?) at it, so you can use it on the go -- without having to use a VPN. I tried to set this up on my own using a VPS and Pi-Hole and it did work for a while. However, bad actors eventually found the server and started using it to perform DNS amplification attacks against, of all things, cricket news website…

You mean a public Dns server with ad blocking?

https://adguard.com/en/adguard-dns/overview.html

Note that obviously since you are sharing all your dns requests with them, it's terrible for privacy... :'(

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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Post by zymhan »

xfitm3 wrote: post #234
lifeformed wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just want to pay a monthly "digital content fee" to some service and have that money be fairly distributed to all the digital services I use: websites, music, video, tools, etc. Is anyone working on a system like that?

Personally, I don’t want to pay anything for content. Look at cable tv. It got so bad there is a cord cutting movement. The same will happen again in another form.

Cable sucks because the revenue comes from the ads, not your cable bill.

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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Post by xyzzy123 »

cestith wrote: post #260
xyzzy123 wrote: post #221

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read an article once that argued the big problem with microtransactions was the transaction cost imposed on users . For the sites, sure, everything can be automated. But even in the best case of good browser ui/ux support the burden shifted to users would be massive. The cognitive cost of trying to decide whether to spend 10c on an article I haven’t read yet costs me way more than 10c. Man that article sucked. Did…

I would absolutely pay $10 a month to an aggregator like HN or /. that then paid publishers a portion of that based on article rank and/or number of clicks through.

Yes, agree that fixed-price deals with publishers / aggregators are tenable. Spotify works for people, for example.

The original argument was essentially that there was a minimum transaction size that was cognitively viable at scale.

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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Post by tomjen3 »

mygo wrote: post #191
NeedMoreTea wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I heavily believe we should be supporting creators As do I. There's two significant issues I have supporting most sites: 1. They provide only a subscription that is comparable cost to an old-media full subscription. Like most people in the Internet age I have a small number of main sources that I visit daily, and a much larger secondary tier where I may average one or two stories a week. Or they're the sites linked…

> There's no low user or micro transaction options for these, so I get a choice of pay say £10 a month or nothing There is yet to be a quick and simple micro-transaction infrastructure for the web. Transaction costs inhibit micro-transactions. They don’t scale down. Some are trying to use crypto to do micro-transactions, but even crypto has transaction costs that inhibit how small micro-transactions can be, not to me…

A transaction on bitcoin cash costs 1 to 2 sat, which is less than 0.01 penny.

It is true that the cost can vary greatly (which sucks, please tell me of a crypto coin that is 1:1 with dollars), but you can adjust the price in real time and since you are selling a digital product even in an extreme situation you are not going to lose money (remember the transaction fee is pretty much going to be 1-2 sat always).

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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Post by ethagnawl »

DavideNL wrote: post #263
ethagnawl wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surprisingly, I've yet to see a service which fronts Pi-Hole or similar and allows you to point your DNS resolver(?) at it, so you can use it on the go -- without having to use a VPN. I tried to set this up on my own using a VPS and Pi-Hole and it did work for a while. However, bad actors eventually found the server and started using it to perform DNS amplification attacks against, of all things, cricket news website…

You mean a public Dns server with ad blocking? https://adguard.com/en/adguard-dns/overview.html Note that obviously since you are sharing all your dns requests with them, it's terrible for privacy... :'(

> Not that obviously since you are sharing all your dns requests with them, it's terrible for privacy... :'(

Right. I'm not defending this service in any way, but couldn't you say the same about Quad9 or Cloudflare?

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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Post by tomjen3 »

xyzzy123 wrote: post #221
mygo wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There's no low user or micro transaction options for these, so I get a choice of pay say £10 a month or nothing There is yet to be a quick and simple micro-transaction infrastructure for the web. Transaction costs inhibit micro-transactions. They don’t scale down. Some are trying to use crypto to do micro-transactions, but even crypto has transaction costs that inhibit how small micro-transactions can be, not to me…

I read an article once that argued the big problem with microtransactions was the transaction cost imposed on users . For the sites, sure, everything can be automated. But even in the best case of good browser ui/ux support the burden shifted to users would be massive. The cognitive cost of trying to decide whether to spend 10c on an article I haven’t read yet costs me way more than 10c. Man that article sucked. Did…

Would it change if there was a button at the bottom of the article, that you could click for an instant refund, no questions asked?

Honestly it almost seems to be worth trying, the potential upshot is _huge_.

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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Post by cwkoss »

lifeformed wrote: post #228
NeedMoreTea wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I heavily believe we should be supporting creators As do I. There's two significant issues I have supporting most sites: 1. They provide only a subscription that is comparable cost to an old-media full subscription. Like most people in the Internet age I have a small number of main sources that I visit daily, and a much larger secondary tier where I may average one or two stories a week. Or they're the sites linked…

I just want to pay a monthly "digital content fee" to some service and have that money be fairly distributed to all the digital services I use: websites, music, video, tools, etc. Is anyone working on a system like that?

Haven't looked at either in a while, but you might look into Flattr and Brave browser

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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Post by sandoz9 »

JadoJodo wrote: post #225
mikestew wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My Pi-hole with updated block lists (blocking trackers as well as ads) sits at around 87.7% requests blocked Where in THE hell are you going on the Internet? Wait, don't answer that. I only wonder because we sit at around 20-30% at our house (which is still ridiculous). But approaching 90%? Maybe I need to crank the blocklists up a notch, but I can't imagine even surfing porn sites all day that I could get anywhere n…

I've hit 75% before. My Roku desperately wants to phone home (25k requests/day).

My Samsung TV wants to send home info about everything I watch.
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