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Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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Post by Semaphor »

slacka wrote: post #131
ObsoleteNerd wrote: post #81

My Pi-hole with updated block lists (blocking trackers as well as ads) sits at around 87.7% requests blocked, which is absolutely mind-blowingly ridiculous. I see absolutely no negative effects browsing like this. Everything I've come across still works fine. Even sites that detect uBlock Origin and tell me to disable it, will work with that disabled and Pi-hole still blocking the ads instead. I heavily believe we sh…

> I heavily believe we should be supporting creators Agreed. Do you disable your pi-hole on sites like Reddit? They vet their ads so not have any of the malicious attributes that you described. All the larger newspagers like WaPo and NYT are also good about this too. I'm all for blocking intrusive or malicious ads. But quality content depends on ad revenue. The author dedicated an entire paragraph on donating to the…

I used to have Reddit whitelisted until they started showing subreddit-targeted ads in other subs. I follow a bunch of cryptocurrency subs and the ads there are… well… as you expect.

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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Post by ObsoleteNerd »

abraham_lincoln wrote: post #193
Mister_Snuggles wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup, I temporarily disabled it and life was good. But I can understand how this would frustrate people, especially when they don't know how to disable it or aren't given the password.

What about WS2811s with a pushbutton to temporarily disable, or a pushbutton on one of the GPIO pins, with the switch in a central location?

The included dashboard with the pi-hole is incredibly easy to use, so I just have it bookmarked on all our browsers in case someone in my family needs to pause it or whitelist/blacklist a site. We barely ever have to touch it though, mostly just to update the blocklists occasionally.

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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Post by mikestew »

ObsoleteNerd wrote: post #81

My Pi-hole with updated block lists (blocking trackers as well as ads) sits at around 87.7% requests blocked, which is absolutely mind-blowingly ridiculous. I see absolutely no negative effects browsing like this. Everything I've come across still works fine. Even sites that detect uBlock Origin and tell me to disable it, will work with that disabled and Pi-hole still blocking the ads instead. I heavily believe we sh…

My Pi-hole with updated block lists (blocking trackers as well as ads) sits at around 87.7% requests blocked

Where in THE hell are you going on the Internet? Wait, don't answer that. I only wonder because we sit at around 20-30% at our house (which is still ridiculous). But approaching 90%? Maybe I need to crank the blocklists up a notch, but I can't imagine even surfing porn sites all day that I could get anywhere near that percentage of blocked requests. But, man, I enjoy a challenge...

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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Post by qrbLPHiKpiux »

I've been running this for two years at home and at work and it's a God-send.

I live the ability to block SM on my networks. FB can get to be such a distraction with employees.

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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Post by erikpukinskis »

I fundamentally believe we have the right to transform content that comes to our devices.

The idea that we have a moral duty to sit passively and absorb “experiences” in their intended form... I just don’t see how that works long term. It will just mean we get abused more and more and we have to take it.

No, if you want my business you have to find a way into my consciousness that is compatible with the way I arrange information around me. That’s always been the deal. You can put a free circular in my mailbox and I am free to toss it without looking.

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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Post by zacwest »

ethagnawl wrote: post #187
admax88q wrote: post #167

Why are our devices so far outside our own control that we need to run an additional device on our networks to help prevent them from making unwanted network requests? The whole approach of Pi-hole feels misguided. Blacklisting domains and hosts should be something easily done on my device locally. Then it comes with me when I visit friends or coffee shops, and it's easy to temporarily disable when it breaks somethin…

Surprisingly, I've yet to see a service which fronts Pi-Hole or similar and allows you to point your DNS resolver(?) at it, so you can use it on the go -- without having to use a VPN. I tried to set this up on my own using a VPS and Pi-Hole and it did work for a while. However, bad actors eventually found the server and started using it to perform DNS amplification attacks against, of all things, cricket news website…

https://adfreetime.com does this, as well as proxying location checking (like MLB's video streaming).

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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Post by aquadrop »

Semaphor wrote: post #201
slacka wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I heavily believe we should be supporting creators Agreed. Do you disable your pi-hole on sites like Reddit? They vet their ads so not have any of the malicious attributes that you described. All the larger newspagers like WaPo and NYT are also good about this too. I'm all for blocking intrusive or malicious ads. But quality content depends on ad revenue. The author dedicated an entire paragraph on donating to the…

I used to have Reddit whitelisted until they started showing subreddit-targeted ads in other subs. I follow a bunch of cryptocurrency subs and the ads there are… well… as you expect.

Why is this bad? You follow cryptocurrency subreddit, they show you relevant ad. You follow "warm mittens" subreddit, they show you relevant ad, etc. So why is it a bad thing?

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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Post by Obi_Juan_Kenobi »

mygo wrote: post #191
NeedMoreTea wrote: post #166

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> I heavily believe we should be supporting creators As do I. There's two significant issues I have supporting most sites: 1. They provide only a subscription that is comparable cost to an old-media full subscription. Like most people in the Internet age I have a small number of main sources that I visit daily, and a much larger secondary tier where I may average one or two stories a week. Or they're the sites linked…

> There's no low user or micro transaction options for these, so I get a choice of pay say £10 a month or nothing There is yet to be a quick and simple micro-transaction infrastructure for the web. Transaction costs inhibit micro-transactions. They don’t scale down. Some are trying to use crypto to do micro-transactions, but even crypto has transaction costs that inhibit how small micro-transactions can be, not to me…

Scaling cryptocurrencies would absolutely address this issue, but that's an enormous challenge.

A simple, centralized service could easily fill this role with batched transactions. Each reader pays once a month, each publisher gets payed once a month, and those payments can be shuffled about a database trivially. O(n) vs. O(n^2)

Patreon kind of did/does this. There was a big stink not long ago where this appeared to fall apart. The issue Patreon faced was that it was not so trivial to bundle transactions like this. Some creators wanted to get paid in a piecemeal fashion for each video uploaded, etc. For patreon supporters, they would each be on their own separate billing cycle because they decided it would be bad UX to have the first month be pro-rated or whatever.

As much as Patreon is best situated to provide a service like this, I'm not encouraged that they'll do so.

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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Post by zhoujianfu »

clarkmoody wrote: post #196
mygo wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There's no low user or micro transaction options for these, so I get a choice of pay say £10 a month or nothing There is yet to be a quick and simple micro-transaction infrastructure for the web. Transaction costs inhibit micro-transactions. They don’t scale down. Some are trying to use crypto to do micro-transactions, but even crypto has transaction costs that inhibit how small micro-transactions can be, not to me…

I suggest looking at Lightning Network for micro-transactions. Still emerging tech, but it shows great promise.

Or bitcoin cash! ;)
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