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Vivaldi 2.0 – includes sync, resizable tab tiling, floating web panels and more

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Re: Vivaldi 2.0 – includes sync, resizable tab tiling, floating web panels and more

#71
post #62

My biggest gripe with Vivaldi is that the first option when right clicking a link is to open in new tab and focus it. This seems like a small issue, but this is different to all major browsers which has open in new _background_ tab as the default option. There is 10 years of muscle memory for me to overcome to switch and I just can't do it.

It's new tab in the first option for me.

Just checked, you are right! The issue was actually that it focuses the tab when you open it, it does not open it in the background. I have clarified the comment, thanks!

Re: Vivaldi 2.0 – includes sync, resizable tab tiling, floating web panels and more

#72

Seems pretty great so far. Is there a way to get the Firefox autoscrolling behavior, i.e. middle mouse click to toggle auto scroll mode?

What do you mean by autoscrolling ? Scrolling by just moving the mouse up and down after a middle mouse click ? Vivaldi does that by default.

Re: Vivaldi 2.0 – includes sync, resizable tab tiling, floating web panels and more

#73

Does anyone know if Vivaldi (and Brave), render HTML/CSS/JS just like Chrome does? I know they are both based on Chromium, but just wondering if Google adds some "Googliness" to Chrome? As a web developer, if I just test my sites against Vivaldi, Brave, or other Chromium based browsers, can I guaranteed the rendering will be identical to Chrome? Or is it safer to also test in Chrome? Also, do all Chrome extensions wo…

https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/HEAD/docs/c... suggests that rendering in Chrome and Chromium is identical, so as long as Vivaldi and Brave keep their Chromium updated it should render the same as Chrome.

Re: Vivaldi 2.0 – includes sync, resizable tab tiling, floating web panels and more

#75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have nothing against political work, but I think they should just give money to the EFF instead of doing their own - they are much better at the job, imagine what they would do with 300M$. And FF should focus on the browser because this is their cash cow, and progress is needed. But as the declining usage numbers show, FF employes just do what they want, riding FF to death then jumping ship to raid the next project…

Left in the dust? I have no idea what you are talking about. Current Firefox is better than ever for me.

Tab management is as bad as ever, I need to turn of spy configs all the time to still use it, it broke most of the plugins I used etc. etc.

Re: Vivaldi 2.0 – includes sync, resizable tab tiling, floating web panels and more

#76
post #48

(25 years FF user) Trying out Vivaldi 2.0, tab management is much better than Firefox, e.g. Vertical Tab View shows closed tabs, I can drag & drop closed tabs into a window to just reopen them.

Firefox has been out for 25 years? Or are you referring to Mozilla also?

Mosaic on an SGI or VAX/Tektronix not sure which one arrived first, we had both in our Unix pool at university.

Re: Vivaldi 2.0 – includes sync, resizable tab tiling, floating web panels and more

#77
post #12

I’ve used Vivaldi for a bit, and it’s a nice browser. Coming from Chrome, there is a pretty painless transition since most extensions will work fine. However, Vivaldi does nothing to improve the state of the web. It’s just another webkit, fostering the monoculture; and their business model and practices are basically the same as Google’s, just on a smaller scale.

> It’s just another webkit, fostering the monoculture;

Ignoring that Blink and Webkit are feature identical, what negative effects are there with an open source rendering engine monoculture?

Re: Vivaldi 2.0 – includes sync, resizable tab tiling, floating web panels and more

#78
I use firefox as my primary browser but used chrome as secondary for misc. Did away with chrome recently and am trying vivaldi.

So far i observed that session restart is not reliable. Tab open by default takes you to the page and there is an option to open tab in background but its quite annoying that its not the default. Calling a norm as being out of place is quite a stand. Developers who normally have the tendency to open multiple pages at once from search results will find this feature bothersome when trying it out.

I don't think its a game changer but can be a worthy contender for a secondary browser option.

Re: Vivaldi 2.0 – includes sync, resizable tab tiling, floating web panels and more

#79
post #51

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> Ever since they forced out Brendan [...] FF has really started to go down hill I'm sorry you weren't around when Firefox (then called Phoenix) was really good, but most FF problems pre-date 2014. They are actually being addressed just about now.

I used Phoenix (from about 0.6 IIRC) and for the most part had FF as my main browser - trialing alternatives occasionally (Opera, Flock, Chrome, etc.) and doing web testing with others (Links, IEx, android browser, Maxthon, etc.). When Eich was ousted it seemed like things took a sea change and we started getting "commercial" stuff shoved in our faces (alright, stuck on our toolbars). Firefox doesn't appear to be a h…

Nah, the tension was already there, since forever. It’s just that, after the failure of the misguided FFOS white elephant, they have gone back to the realization that their main source of funding will remain the browser for the foreseeable future, and that inspired (and inspires) some poor choices here and there. Eich’s departure was coincidental, imho. Quantum (which is very good) came way after he left, for example.

Re: Vivaldi 2.0 – includes sync, resizable tab tiling, floating web panels and more

#80
post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Ever since they forced out Brendan [...] FF has really started to go down hill I'm sorry you weren't around when Firefox (then called Phoenix) was really good, but most FF problems pre-date 2014. They are actually being addressed just about now.

I used Phoenix (from about 0.6 IIRC) and for the most part had FF as my main browser - trialing alternatives occasionally (Opera, Flock, Chrome, etc.) and doing web testing with others (Links, IEx, android browser, Maxthon, etc.). When Eich was ousted it seemed like things took a sea change and we started getting "commercial" stuff shoved in our faces (alright, stuck on our toolbars). Firefox doesn't appear to be a h…

Are you complaining about Pocket?
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