(25 years FF user)
Trying out Vivaldi 2.0, tab management is much better than Firefox, e.g. Vertical Tab View shows closed tabs, I can drag & drop closed tabs into a window to just reopen them.
Vivaldi 2.0 – includes sync, resizable tab tiling, floating web panels and more
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Re: Vivaldi 2.0 – includes sync, resizable tab tiling, floating web panels and more
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Firefox is spending millions on political goals, failed OS' etc. Only a small portion is put into the progress of FF - speeding up rendering a notable exception.
Ever since they forced out Brendan (co-founder and creator of javascript no less) because of their political intolerance, FF has really started to go down hill. Each release you have to go through more about:config settings to turn off all their "helper" apps (ie. spyware partnerships).
Care to elaborate on these '"helper" apps'?
Personally I feel like Firefox has made significant progress this year in particular. Mostly because of the performance improvements. I haven't noticed any 'spyware partnerships' and that would certainly concern me.
Re: Vivaldi 2.0 – includes sync, resizable tab tiling, floating web panels and more
#23Finally! I've been waiting for this for days now :)
Most exciting feature for me are the auto-hiding and floating panels. Auto-hiding as in they disappear if you click anywhere outside them and floating as in they don't resize the actual browser window but instead cover it, so they don't cause pages to reflow their content, which can be annoying at times.
Re: Vivaldi 2.0 – includes sync, resizable tab tiling, floating web panels and more
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Firefox is spending millions on political goals, failed OS' etc. Only a small portion is put into the progress of FF - speeding up rendering a notable exception.
While I appreciate the political work, I would like to see better leadership at Firefox, and less spent on side and failed projects.
I have nothing against political work, but I think they should just give money to the EFF instead of doing their own - they are much better at the job, imagine what they would do with 300M$.
And FF should focus on the browser because this is their cash cow, and progress is needed. But as the declining usage numbers show, FF employes just do what they want, riding FF to death then jumping ship to raid the next project. As a longtime FF user (25y) you're just left in the dust.
Re: Vivaldi 2.0 – includes sync, resizable tab tiling, floating web panels and more
#25Shocking the extent to which Vivaldi is innovating at the chrome level compared to Firefox(revenue 2016 > $500 million).
Vivaldi just a custom Chromium though. Still, first post from Vivaldi. Gonna give it a try, mostly for the tab management features included by default. Could never get any of the new tab group extensions to work quite right (or at all) in Firefox after quantum. Also built-in vertical tabs and hibernate background tabs option! Even though I'll prob end up back at Firefox anyway since FOSS..
Exactly my opinion.
Re: Vivaldi 2.0 – includes sync, resizable tab tiling, floating web panels and more
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
While I appreciate the political work, I would like to see better leadership at Firefox, and less spent on side and failed projects.
I have nothing against political work, but I think they should just give money to the EFF instead of doing their own - they are much better at the job, imagine what they would do with 300M$. And FF should focus on the browser because this is their cash cow, and progress is needed. But as the declining usage numbers show, FF employes just do what they want, riding FF to death then jumping ship to raid the next project…
Exactly. Employees who get to engage in the theatre of running a software company with 0 risk.
They need an oversight committee (from outside the valley preferably)
Anybody got the breakdown on community commits to FF vs. employee commits?
Re: Vivaldi 2.0 – includes sync, resizable tab tiling, floating web panels and more
#27Does anyone know if Vivaldi (and Brave), render HTML/CSS/JS just like Chrome does?
I know they are both based on Chromium, but just wondering if Google adds some "Googliness" to Chrome?
As a web developer, if I just test my sites against Vivaldi, Brave, or other Chromium based browsers, can I guaranteed the rendering will be identical to Chrome? Or is it safer to also test in Chrome?
Also, do all Chrome extensions work on Chromium based browsers?
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Re: Vivaldi 2.0 – includes sync, resizable tab tiling, floating web panels and more
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have nothing against political work, but I think they should just give money to the EFF instead of doing their own - they are much better at the job, imagine what they would do with 300M$. And FF should focus on the browser because this is their cash cow, and progress is needed. But as the declining usage numbers show, FF employes just do what they want, riding FF to death then jumping ship to raid the next project…
Exactly. Employees who get to engage in the theatre of running a software company with 0 risk. They need an oversight committee (from outside the valley preferably) Anybody got the breakdown on community commits to FF vs. employee commits?
> Anybody got the breakdown on community commits to FF vs. employee commits?
Last time I saw anyone try to do this, it was vastly predominately employee commits (this isn't that surprising, there are hundreds of people working full-time on Firefox at Mozilla, and very few spending a comparable amount of time per day in the larger community); it's hard to get exact numbers because determining whether a commit is by an employee or not is hard (e.g., there's no requirement for employees to use Mozilla email addresses for their commits).
Re: Vivaldi 2.0 – includes sync, resizable tab tiling, floating web panels and more
#30Any word if the browser supports pinch to zoom yet? That's been holding me back from using it.