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Re: Product Updates Based on Your Feedback

#91
I'd prefer that Google not add this "feature," instead of just issuing a blog post that will go unread by 95% of people, and adding a setting that will go unknown to the same 95% of people.

"Oh whoops we got caught. We'll give the few upset people an extra check box to revert to old behavior. But luckily no one else will ever know."

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#92
post #49

> We’re also going to change the way we handle the clearing of auth cookies. In the current version of Chrome, we keep the Google auth cookies to allow you to stay signed in after cookies are cleared. We will change this behavior that so all cookies are deleted and you will be signed out. I really want to know who the internal champion was for getting the cookies to be perma-stored in the first place. It has to be so…

I don't think it was an isolated person. The tone of the blog post is that we're surprisingly passionate to want clearing cookies to actually clear cookies. Am I the only one who detects a condescending tone here?

We deeply appreciate all of the passionate users who have engaged with us on this. Chrome is a diverse, worldwide community, and we’re lucky to have users who care as much as you do. Keep the feedback coming.

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#93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Neither of those bugs have to do with 100% CPU on rMBP. Their about using an inefficient presentation path which increases GPU power usage. You can mitigate this today by setting gfx.compositor.glcontext.opaque to true. Further, Firefox Beta has additional texture upload performance improvements that will reduce cpu usage. If you're actually experiencing 100% cpu usage, post a profile using https://perf-html.io/ and…

Steps to reproduce: 1) Pick a rMBP. Any one. 2) Set display options - "more space" under System Preferences. 3) Run Firefox. Load any website. No extensions; safe mode doesn't matter. 4) 100%+ CPU, fans kick up and run high, system gets hot and slows to a crawl. Chrome and Safari run totally fine under the same conditions. It's documented pretty thoroughly in the first Bugzilla link I posted; the second one is an off…

I've been doing this since the first-gen rMBP, and I've never had this issue. No matter my scaling, I idle at about 5% CPU with about 80 tabs and 10 windows actively open.

Re: Product Updates Based on Your Feedback

#94
I’ve realized something over the years: Remember how “cool” Google was in 2007!? I vividly remember.

I have learned an important fact that Ad business is rotten at the core - meaning it has direct conflicts with users. Therefore, I can never come to trust any Ads businesses: Facebook, Google, Snapchat, etc and recently Adobe and Microsoft.

I’m disgusted at the state of advertisement in modern society. It ruined cable, radio, social media, road sides, magazines and the very fabric of society. Turns out that our attention has a huge price tag.

Re: Product Updates Based on Your Feedback

#95
Too late. I am already done with Google as I was done with Facebook a few years ago. There seems to be no end to the privacy issues and user exploitation that crops up. If it isn't one thing it is another.

These marketing / ad tech companies masquerading as consumer products will inevitably drift toward more invasion of privacy and user exploitation.

Re: Product Updates Based on Your Feedback

#96
post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that change was merited because of the "signed into chrome vs google" issue they were trying to solve. Say I clear my cookies on a signed-in, syncing account. With G Cookies also deleted, I may wonder "Why is my picture in the top right but no Google services are using it??". To us, it's clear that chrome sign-in is different from google sign-in, but to others, it may not be.

Hang on. The logical thing to do, if your real aim is to have browser sign in state reflect cookie state, is to sign out the browser when someone clears their cookies. That would make total sense to users. I think this is clear evidence that Google made this change to keep more users signed into Google so they can collect more of your data without telling you.

"Performing this action will log you out of chrome. (You may sign in again immediately afterwards.)"

Problem solved?

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#98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And their 'email' button opens a email with no address: Button: http://prntscr.com/kyrhrf Email Opened: http://prntscr.com/kyri1i

It's obviously a "share via email" button, not a "email the senior product managers in charge of Chrome!" button.

That makes sense.

Side point - the comment "email the senior product managers in charge of Chrome!" feels aggressive. It could be an email to a generic address where they sift feedback. That's hardly an unused option on the web. Is my comment here unfair?

While 100% you are correct in the point, I feel polite discourse on HN is the aspiration.

Re: Product Updates Based on Your Feedback

#99
post #9

I have no doubt this is a direct result of the feedback in the hacker news thread. Googlers read our comments and take them seriously when there is true merit. Keep making noise folks, it matters.

Counterpoint, we shouldn't fucking have to. They should fucking know not to keep google cookies around when you explicitly say to clear cookies. It's that whole "don't be evil" motto that they completely abandoned a decade ago.
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