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Re: Understanding schizophrenia: What exactly is schizophrenia?

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Post by CryptoRetired »

dang wrote: post #46
califff wrote: post #8

Schizophrenia is what Mohammed suffered from, which caused him to think Allah was talking to him. In actuality, his brain was malfunctioning due to Schizophrenia.

Religious flamewar has no place here. We've banned this account.

Translation: Anything that disagrees with dangs homophobic, neonazi politics is not tolerated on HN. Unless you agree with him, your opinions are ideological rants. If you do agree with him, of course, abuse, name calling, stalking, harassments, threats of violence, violations of the law and hate speech are ok... as dang himself engages in and provides cover for regularly on this site.

Anyone who dares point out this hypocrisy or dares to think for themselves, for that matter, will be censored immediately.

Because like all nazis, dang is an intellectual coward who cannot defend his positions, will not recognize his own hypocrisy and abuse, and thinks that silencing people so that the "HN record" only shows one side makes reality.

Reality is you're an abusive, lying asshole, and hypocrite.

You don't care for diversity, you seek to create a monoculture of group think.

And anyone worth a damn has left his site or been driven off.

Re: Understanding schizophrenia: What exactly is schizophrenia?

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Post by monotone666 »

loceng wrote: post #33
monotone666 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The part of it that was damaging was that I was attempting to work as a data center security guard (to later become a data center tech). my employer responded to my inability to do my job or even get up and leave the building, by interrogating me. it constantly replays in my head for years now and the only time I really calm down is when I smoke weed or get drunk or something.

I don't quite understand the connection to your original post relating to the diagnosis of Delusional Dis-order, however what you're saying here sounds like post-traumatic stress? MAPS ( https://maps.org/ ) recently did a study using MDMA to help treat PTSD with psychotherapy - perhaps a worthwhile path to explore, and worth contacting them? Perhaps there's PTSD that is acting like a linchpin causing a cascade of pro…

I had ear infections as a child. I don’t really remember my childhood tho. I got sick every three months after getting Kawasaki disease at age 3.

Re: Understanding schizophrenia: What exactly is schizophrenia?

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Post by monotone666 »

IAmGraydon wrote: post #39
monotone666 wrote: post #4

I’ve been diagnosed with Delusional Disorder after a long term infection with the Epistein Barr Virus. I spent a period of time in a deep psychosis. What it seems like now is my brain trying to make meaning out of something traumatic. I believed I was one of the most important people in the world when I was in a state of shock. The delusion still persists despite heavy doses of psychiatric drugs.

How does the delusion persist if you’ve clearly just stated that you realize it’s a delusion?

I’m not entirely convinced either way. Without medicine I’m convinced it’s real.

Re: Understanding schizophrenia: What exactly is schizophrenia?

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Post by nil_pointer »

ada1981 wrote: post #31

I was diagnosed with schizophrenia and ten years later, bipolar. I didn't trust that western psychiatry could heal the underlying causes so I basically just shut up about it for a decade. After about 10 years, I was suicidal and couldn't ignore it anymore. My intuition told me to find another way, so I started to research on my own. I found a way through that involved MDMA therapy, NARM therapy, holotropic breathwork…

This is the very inspiring, I'm glad you found a way to deal with this terrible affliction. I have a close friend who suffers from schizophrenia, and the medication they put him on turned him into a zombie. I hope the methods you used become more widely known and adopted.

Re: Understanding schizophrenia: What exactly is schizophrenia?

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Post by mercer »

loceng wrote: post #33
monotone666 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The part of it that was damaging was that I was attempting to work as a data center security guard (to later become a data center tech). my employer responded to my inability to do my job or even get up and leave the building, by interrogating me. it constantly replays in my head for years now and the only time I really calm down is when I smoke weed or get drunk or something.

I don't quite understand the connection to your original post relating to the diagnosis of Delusional Dis-order, however what you're saying here sounds like post-traumatic stress? MAPS ( https://maps.org/ ) recently did a study using MDMA to help treat PTSD with psychotherapy - perhaps a worthwhile path to explore, and worth contacting them? Perhaps there's PTSD that is acting like a linchpin causing a cascade of pro…

I'm curious why you're asking, as I used to have a pretty bad ear infections as a child.

Re: Understanding schizophrenia: What exactly is schizophrenia?

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Post by eigenstuff »

rcdwealth wrote: post #66

Schizophrenia is not a disease and never was. It is behavioral disorder. Who is then defining what is schizophrenia? Is it a physician? Does it have any pathological evidences? The clear answer is NO. So it cannot be a disease. It is defined by psychiatrists by voting the "disorders" in their meetings of American Psychiatric Association. Such disorders are then published in the Diagnostic and Statistic Manual: https:…

I'm schizotypal, which is basically schizophrenia lite... pretty sure there's nothing "behavioral" about my recurring auditory hallucinations of a brass band playing nonsense music.

Re: Understanding schizophrenia: What exactly is schizophrenia?

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Post by dsego »

fbarred wrote: post #56
ada1981 wrote: post #31

I was diagnosed with schizophrenia and ten years later, bipolar. I didn't trust that western psychiatry could heal the underlying causes so I basically just shut up about it for a decade. After about 10 years, I was suicidal and couldn't ignore it anymore. My intuition told me to find another way, so I started to research on my own. I found a way through that involved MDMA therapy, NARM therapy, holotropic breathwork…

I am very happy for you. It is great that you are able to recognize your schizophrenia. Many people who suffer from schizophrenia also suffer from anosognosia, which is a condition of not being able to recognize one's illness. A person close to me is suffering from schizophrenia. We found, to our surprise, that anti-psychotic medications work very well. It changes a person who is not able to function (delusions, diso…

That's why you have slow releasing intramuscular injections of xeplion or abilify. They can stop taking pills, but this is harder to avoid. Learned this the hard way with my brother.

Re: Understanding schizophrenia: What exactly is schizophrenia?

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Post by dsego »

corporateslaver wrote: post #47
drkstr wrote: post #22

I have a good friend who was diagnosed with schizophrenia before he graduated high school. It was very tragic to watch. Who was once such a bright and capable person, can no longer function in normal society. I found it very difficult to invite him places. Often times I would need to back him up in a physical fight. He wasn't violent, simply incapable of seperating reality from what he saw, often times taking the for…

I have a sibling who’s in and out of the mental hospital. It’s easy to show support in the early days, but ten years in when they still have psychotic breaks and most around them have given up is when the real test starts. Glad to hear your story and wish you the best. For myself I’ve vowed to never forget the person who was there before the illness. You still see the glimpses here and there

I also have a sibling like that. But there's no ifs or buts, when the situation gets worse, off to the institution you go until you get back to normal. At first, you cry and sob, it's hard seeing them strapped to a bed. But tough love is the best love, when everything else fails. Now he is on injections and there is no more horsing around about taking or not taking pills.

Re: Understanding schizophrenia: What exactly is schizophrenia?

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Post by dsego »

eigenstuff wrote: post #77
rcdwealth wrote: post #66

Schizophrenia is not a disease and never was. It is behavioral disorder. Who is then defining what is schizophrenia? Is it a physician? Does it have any pathological evidences? The clear answer is NO. So it cannot be a disease. It is defined by psychiatrists by voting the "disorders" in their meetings of American Psychiatric Association. Such disorders are then published in the Diagnostic and Statistic Manual: https:…

I'm schizotypal, which is basically schizophrenia lite... pretty sure there's nothing "behavioral" about my recurring auditory hallucinations of a brass band playing nonsense music.

I think the parent is challenging the circular definition used by psychiatry. Aka you hear voices, therefore you have schizophrenia and you have schizophrenia which is why you hear the voices.

For example, I found the following texts thought provoking:

http://behaviorismandmentalhealth.com/2010/01/21/schizophren...

http://behaviorismandmentalhealth.com/2013/01/03/schizophren...

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