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Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by laurent123456 »

baud147258 wrote: post #287
ux-app wrote: post #62

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Dropping chrome is not enough. Switch to bing (Just as good as G), or ddg if you really want. Then ditch android which is the spy in your pocket. If you're installing G analytics for clients then choose an alternative (I'm open to suggestions here). It's really time to disentangle ourselves from google. They've quietly and effectively insinuated themselves across the web. Enough is enough.

For analytics, we had one here just this week: Simple Analytics https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18024277

I'm also looking for an alternative to GA but paying $168/year (for now) for an inferior product is not really a solution.

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Post by swebs »

Djvacto wrote: post #283
beavis2 wrote: post #118

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Right. But there's a certain amount of irony that people are ditching Chrome, while still using an OS which literally does spy on you.

I tried looking up stuff about windows spying on users, and most of what I'm seeing is useless (debunked articles, generally clickbait stuff). Is there anywhere I could look to read more about this if true?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_10#Privacy_and_data_co...

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Post by jstanley »

swebs wrote: post #320

"Oh you want to take a moral stand? Ok, the door is that way. We've just successfully lobbied for a few hundred more H1B's that will do anything we tell them"

If the company is asking you to do things that you find ethically untenable, you should leave, even in full knowledge that the company will find a way to do it anyway.

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Post by gergles »

vezycash wrote: post #259
jimktrains2 wrote: post #243

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They just did it again to gain a count of users who turned telemetry off. In general, I see firefox's point that using the system extensions to deliver autouodates and allow them to iterate more quickly. However, it also feels like whenever we see these extensions that they're something shady.

With firefox, you can disable extension auto updates.

You can't disable it installing new extensions behind your back without telling you, though. These are "system extensions" and you can't opt out of them.

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Post by tetrep »

wruza wrote: post #326
braythwayt wrote: post #239

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One more thing (apologies): If you take the engineer off the hook because “they can’t change things,” you know what inevitably happens? You discover that the product and eng managers can’t change things either. In theory, maybe, but in practice they are given accountability for revenue and growth targets, so what choice do they have? Let’s move up the ladder. Can we blame the directors and ELT. No, the markets hold t…

Putting yourself in a weaker position due to your views doesn't scale and thus doesn't work. For one hero there are ten conformists at the same level of skill, waiting for him/her to leave. While it's brave, it is also pointless. The problem as you state it can be solved only by explicit consensus, being it a law or just a manifesto. Modern privacy has no professional and power-y organization under it, except for few…

you can use the same argument to tell people not to vote. it's not a good one.

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Post by laurent123456 »

Boulth wrote: post #252
tumetab1 wrote: post #192

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That link leads to me an empty page, is the URL correct?

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Post was:

> Latest version of Chrome doesn't remove Google cookies when you clear browsing data. I feel like Google is adding super cookies to track users even after clearing browser data.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by netcraft »

ux-app wrote: post #62
mangecoeur wrote: post #36

Seriously don't know why anyone is surprised that a browser built by an ad-tech company pushes the user tracking tech of that company. Just use Firefox and have done with it - there's been a series of these kinds of posts over the last couple of days with people suggesting insane workaround hacks instead of just changing their browser. P.S. if you keep chrome because some websites only work properly there, maybe y'al…

Dropping chrome is not enough. Switch to bing (Just as good as G), or ddg if you really want. Then ditch android which is the spy in your pocket. If you're installing G analytics for clients then choose an alternative (I'm open to suggestions here). It's really time to disentangle ourselves from google. They've quietly and effectively insinuated themselves across the web. Enough is enough.

Im a longtime ios user thinking of switching to android soon - can you elaborate on android spying? All android devices? How do they spy and what do they gather? I hadnt come across this in my research so far

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Post by snaky »

pmlnr wrote: post #229
pmontra wrote: post #226

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Exactly, there are plenty of other companies to go working for. People working for Google at best accept a compromise, at worst are actively working against their customers (should I say users?) That said, as a customer I'm using an Android phone because IMHO anything else is a worse choice for a number of reasons. At least I'm signed out of any Google service except Play.

> any Google service except Play Yeah, that's enough, that logs you in on google play services, which has god mode on your phone.

Having play services (https://github.com/opengapps) on LineageOS is not like that. You can go to Privacy Guard and deny any permissions from Play Services.

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Post by talltimtom »

orcdork wrote: post #139
drawkbox wrote: post #63

Another confirmation that engineers and product developers are no longer in control at Google. Engineering and product first is how Google won the game initially, very easy to forget that when the money rolls in massively and the power structures move away from those driving forces. Microsoft already went through this engineering/product growth to bizdev/marketing control to stagnation and is already in the return to…

That feels like whitewashing part of the blame that applies to engineers and product developers. We don't get to say "oh it's those pesky money people, how dare they", while drawing a salary from the same pockets.

Yes we do. Just like Tesla employees get to critizise Musk for his Twitter market manipulation while still working their day job and drawing a sallery, and Americans can criticize Trump whithout moving out of the country.

Just because you are a benefitting part of an organization, it doesn’t mean you cannot disagree with management and if you disagree it doesn’t mean you have to quit or stop being critical.

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