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Why I’m done with Chrome

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Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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Post by pnenp »

hellofunk wrote: post #22
brian-armstrong wrote: post #10

Firefox is a truly fantastic browser now. I've been using it again for about 2 years and haven't regretted it at all. There have been a couple of weird feature hiccups but generally Mozilla seems to get things right.

I wish I could use it but it has serious performance problems on macOS. I tried and it was just terrible. (thought not all Mac users have problems, quite a number do, and Mozilla has an open issue asking for debugging logs from Macs to find the reasons).

I just switched on my Ubuntu, following the new release of Chrome which OP rightly criticizes. It works very well.

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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Post by stonogo »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #441
azdle wrote: post #338

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assume they're talking about the use of google analytics on the about:addons page discussed here: https://github.com/mozilla/addons-frontend/issues/2785 Two things to note from that thread: From what I've read, Mozilla had some agreement with Google to keep all the data from their tracking stuff silo'ed so it wasn't aggregated with other data and wasn't used for anything besides showing back to Mozilla people. and…

So is it disabled by default since Firefox now sends Do Not Track by default?

No. It's excluded by default, and only blocked if the user manually enables Do Not Track in the Preferences section.

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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Post by fetbaffe »

mfukar wrote: post #608
fetbaffe wrote: post #603

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It has become harder & harder to find videos on YouTube you know exist. Feels like the algorithm i geared to find new content rather to find what I'm looking for.

Interesting. I have the opposite experience. Searching to try and find _new_ content just presents me with videos/playlists I usually have already clicked/watched.

That is what my YouTube home screen looks like, old already viewed content, however not the old vidoes that I need again.

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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Post by patates »

tananaev wrote: post #559
bad_user wrote: post #502

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> Collecting information that most people probably don't care about I care about that information and I’m glad they removed your apps, maybe now you’ll start taking privacy more seriously.

I think you misunderstood my comment. I don't want to collect that information. All I need is anonymous crash stacks and possibly some general statistics (number of users on various app versions and Android versions). Google was collecting extra information without me even being aware of it, until they removed my apps for the store. I want to collect as minimum information as possible for me to effectively maintain t…

> Google was collecting extra information without me even being aware of it

I think the point is that you should be aware of it. It is your application after all. Yes, what Google does is weird, but the app developer needs to be more careful in general what 3rd party code they load.

On the other hand, I understand you. Probably you do your due diligence when you load some random dependency but you (like everyone else) used to expect better from Google. Not anymore I guess.

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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Post by SmellyGeekBoy »

hexane360 wrote: post #528
RobertRoberts wrote: post #404

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When Gmail came out, I said to people "as long as it stays on gmail.com then they can't use email scraping with your search history. No privacy issues." (or minmal ones) Within a few months of Gmail going public it changed from gmail.com to gmail.google.com or google.com/gmail or some such thing, and I knew instantly they had bamboozled everyone. That was years ago, the rest has been the expected trend.

Why does the front-facing domain have anything to do with what data they can or cannot collect?

Cookies

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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Post by craftoman »

pnenp wrote: post #619
craftoman wrote: post #618

Chrome was always spying and collecting data from users since the very first day, every developer knew it that's why most of hackers and devs switched to Chromium. The open source edition which you can patch and modify to completely disable any communication with Google servers. Last I checked on GitHub there were tons of patches. Just switch to Chromium and problem is solved. Chrome is garbage.

Or switch to another browser such as FF where you have to worry less about the problem in the first place and are guaranteed to get updates.

Indeed

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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Post by sjwright »

Oh come on, that's just an absurd example. Gun rights and an article about gun control are literally the same thing. The article surfaced by Google's algorithm is the more relevant and comprehensive one when it comes to gun rights.

I suspect anyone who disagrees is taking a provincial, American view on the subject, and is being triggered by the phrase "gun control".

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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Post by pymai »

cm2187 wrote: post #166
brian-armstrong wrote: post #10

Firefox is a truly fantastic browser now. I've been using it again for about 2 years and haven't regretted it at all. There have been a couple of weird feature hiccups but generally Mozilla seems to get things right.

Yeah I don't like to change habits, I have been using chrome for as long as it has been around, but when I read that last week I made the jump to firefox. Honestly, outside of not having the option to mute sites (as opposed to muting tabs), I can barely tell the difference. Also it makes it harder than chrome to manage site specific permissions. You have to go into the settings and add some exceptions instead of just…

well there's always vivaldi or chromium if you want to slowly wein yourself off google

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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Post by gaius »

sitkack wrote: post #612
namdnay wrote: post #597

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> My first real exposure to the 24 hour news cycle was during Desert Storm and I remember the coverage of CNN was not only reputable, but explemplary ?!?!?! It's funny to see how different viewpoints can be. The CNN coverage of Iraq 1 (and 2) is often given as a textbook example of how pro-military propaganda can be achieved thanks to "embedding": News networks need images, the easiest way to get the most striking im…

Even as a middle school student I was amazed how “clean” they made the war seem. It was clear that the military had full control over the flow of information.

It was clear that the military had full control over the flow of information

They learnt the lessons of the Falklands, where the BBC was happily informing the Argentinians that e.g. they were setting their bomb fuses wrong...

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