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Why I’m done with Chrome

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Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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Post by m12k »

hellofunk wrote: post #22
brian-armstrong wrote: post #10

Firefox is a truly fantastic browser now. I've been using it again for about 2 years and haven't regretted it at all. There have been a couple of weird feature hiccups but generally Mozilla seems to get things right.

I wish I could use it but it has serious performance problems on macOS. I tried and it was just terrible. (thought not all Mac users have problems, quite a number do, and Mozilla has an open issue asking for debugging logs from Macs to find the reasons).

I wanted to ditch Chrome, so I tried Firefox on macOS and it took 3-5 seconds to load most sites while they load in 0.5-1.0 seconds in Chrome. I tried uninstalling (including deleting all profile data) and re-installing to see if that helped. This is as far as I got in trying to install uBlock Origin: https://gyazo.com/5850d1b0955c42b857de4ab302c8149b Tried viewing source, but that page just came out blank too. I really want to like Firefox, but the release version feels like an alpha test to me...

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Post by sitkack »

namdnay wrote: post #597
briandear wrote: post #470

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> it sucks it leaked to nutty Brietbart and not a real news organization. That right there is the issue. “Real” news organizations share ideological views and their choice of what to investigate is a result of that ideology. When a newsroom cheers or is despondent over an election result, it’s unrealistic to expect them to provide hard-hitting coverage that potentially undercuts their own biases. The coverage of Russ…

> My first real exposure to the 24 hour news cycle was during Desert Storm and I remember the coverage of CNN was not only reputable, but explemplary ?!?!?! It's funny to see how different viewpoints can be. The CNN coverage of Iraq 1 (and 2) is often given as a textbook example of how pro-military propaganda can be achieved thanks to "embedding": News networks need images, the easiest way to get the most striking im…

Even as a middle school student I was amazed how “clean” they made the war seem. It was clear that the military had full control over the flow of information.

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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Post by amelius »

partiallypro wrote: post #248

Google started going down the path I would describe as an "evil" path years ago. I'm glad people are starting to notice. I used to be a huge Google advocate, up until about 2008. So many things have changed since then. Adsense was the first breach in trust for me, when they banned my account for no reason and ruined any chance of every monetizing my content...since they are basically a monopoly in that area. Getting…

If we'd ban targeted advertising, this would take away the perverse incentives, and we could help transform Google and other companies into something better. I'd say let's start with a petition.

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Post by e_proxus »

wyclif wrote: post #443
Kpourdeilami wrote: post #44

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I gave up on Firefox on OS X for performance reasons and switched to Safari a while ago and it’s a decent browser. It has support for extensions that I use (ublock origin and 1Password), uses less battery than any other browser, and is fast

Safari 12 no longer supports uBlock Origin. I discovered this over the past weekend. Without ad blocking, Safari is unusable for me. EDIT: It seems AdBlock Plus has now come out with a new plugin that conforms to Apple's new API.

It does, if you enable it again (or reinstall it from the Safari Extensions directory). However, I get the feeling it will only last for this version, since they seem to be closing down on JavaScript extensions in general.

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Post by cylinder »

ehnto wrote: post #554
clarkmoody wrote: post #408

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Search for "gun rights" in Google, and the Wikipedia feature box on the top-right of the results page is the Gun Control article. I've noticed the straight search results making a marked decline in quality over the past few months. If one of the keywords within your search is anything remotely profitable, it will drown out all other terms. Then the search results ended after ~4 pages. Definitely changed from the Goog…

I'm not sure I could define it as intentional and nefarious but I definitely find Google search results to be markedly worse over the last few years. It used to be really competent at finding specialist/technical results but lately it's gotten more generic and less useful. It's possible that's actually the nature of content creation these days, with everyone hyper optimising to please the Google search algorithm. But…

Basically all the results these days are just from news articles on other sites.

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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Post by ag71668 »

ehnto wrote: post #554
clarkmoody wrote: post #408

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Search for "gun rights" in Google, and the Wikipedia feature box on the top-right of the results page is the Gun Control article. I've noticed the straight search results making a marked decline in quality over the past few months. If one of the keywords within your search is anything remotely profitable, it will drown out all other terms. Then the search results ended after ~4 pages. Definitely changed from the Goog…

I'm not sure I could define it as intentional and nefarious but I definitely find Google search results to be markedly worse over the last few years. It used to be really competent at finding specialist/technical results but lately it's gotten more generic and less useful. It's possible that's actually the nature of content creation these days, with everyone hyper optimising to please the Google search algorithm. But…

It is absolutely intentional.

Their goal is not to make the web useful for you, it's to make the web useful for themselves by manipulating what information you're exposed to.

It is the mind-control wet dream. Google is guiding people to ideas that they like and preventing people from being exposed to those they don't. If you think that the Gun Rights thing is some kind of freak accident, consider that they also started outright censoring guns in the shopping page, with hilarious side effects like also censoring water guns.

When talking about a multinational conglomerate that hires the world's best engineers, do not ever mistake malice for incompetence.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/google-shopping-bans-gun-...

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Post by baq »

GW150914 wrote: post #391
partiallypro wrote: post #382

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Google already bullies hardware vendors that don't package Google services with Android devices...which is what Microsoft did in the 90s. They also bundle all their services...which is essentially the very thing that Microsoft ended up getting slapped for. Google gets a way with a lot. Apple does too, but Apple's reach is limited to when you leave their hardware, Google's is always with you. You can't escape unless y…

Google bullies hardware vendors, Apple is its own hardware vendor. That is the essential difference. If MS had done their thing only with hardware they made and sold, instead of twisting the arms of third parties they’d have been OK. There is a qualitative difference between dictating the terms of something you alone build and sell, and using your market dominance to dictate terms to everyone else.

are you talking about device manufacturers or component manufacturers? for the latter, look at what happened to imagination when apple dropped them and then tell me with a straight face that wasn't bullying.

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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Post by craftoman »

Chrome was always spying and collecting data from users since the very first day, every developer knew it that's why most of hackers and devs switched to Chromium. The open source edition which you can patch and modify to completely disable any communication with Google servers. Last I checked on GitHub there were tons of patches. Just switch to Chromium and problem is solved. Chrome is garbage.

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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Post by pnenp »

craftoman wrote: post #618

Chrome was always spying and collecting data from users since the very first day, every developer knew it that's why most of hackers and devs switched to Chromium. The open source edition which you can patch and modify to completely disable any communication with Google servers. Last I checked on GitHub there were tons of patches. Just switch to Chromium and problem is solved. Chrome is garbage.

Or switch to another browser such as FF where you have to worry less about the problem in the first place and are guaranteed to get updates.

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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Post by HeadsUpHigh »

brandonjm wrote: post #449
clarkmoody wrote: post #408

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Search for "gun rights" in Google, and the Wikipedia feature box on the top-right of the results page is the Gun Control article. I've noticed the straight search results making a marked decline in quality over the past few months. If one of the keywords within your search is anything remotely profitable, it will drown out all other terms. Then the search results ended after ~4 pages. Definitely changed from the Goog…

> Search for "gun rights" in Google, and the Wikipedia feature box on the top-right of the results page is the Gun Control article. That could have a very simple explanation: There is no Wikipedia page for "Gun Rights". There is however a Wikipedia page for "Right to Keep and Bear Arms" which is exactly what appears in the Wikipedia box on the right or as the first Wikipedia article when you search for "right to bear…

DuckDuckGo gives you this https://www.nationalgunrights.org/ as the first result with this being the first wikipedia resulthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_keep_and_bear_arms along with news articles about gun rights.
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