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Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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Re: Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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And yet Firefox has sync too.

I'm actually kinda upset at firefox, because I wanted to switch, but when I tried the syncing (from one firefox instance to another) it didn't seem to work for like 90% of my bookmarks, history, passwords so I kinda gave up.

Firefox and Firefox focus come with the anonymous stats tracking enabled. That kinda pissed me off, but as long as that’s the only thing they are doing to track, I’ll move back to Firefox over chrome happily.

Re: Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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I rate Firefox pretty highly since Quantum released. It's fast, polished and in my unscientific testing, consumes less resources.

I tried using Firefox Quantum since Safari 12 closed off most extensions. Firefox Quantum is laggy in comparison, particularly the UI (web page rendering is fine). For example, dragging tabs to other windows is jittery. Launching preferences page is a bit delayed.

I don't understand why people keep saying Safari closed some extensions. It simply disabled them and they're ready to be enabled again in the preferences panel, simple as that.

Re: Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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"terrified of logging into shared/public computers with their Google accounts" I'm terrified of logging into any site on a public computer.

It will cost you around $5 each month that you actually need to use it (mostly because of the Microsoft RDP license), but with AWS AppStream with an image with a browser, you are not leaving any traces of your browsing on the local computer.

This would help somewhat, but all keyboard input could still be logged, as could all screen activity.

Re: Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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I had an instinctual gut reaction against this, because it really does feel like it crosses a line between browser and content that shouldn't be crossed. BUT -- I know a lot of regular (non-technical) users who are terrified of logging into shared/public computers with their Google accounts, because they can't tell the difference between logging in/out of Gmail and logging in/out of Chrome, and they've experienced/he…

"terrified of logging into shared/public computers with their Google accounts" I'm terrified of logging into any site on a public computer.

Exactly. Idea of public computer is crazy. If it is university/institution computer with your presonal account hen you are probably fine it is most likely some VM. But othervise lol.

Re: Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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When I think about it, no. People make the decision between different ecosystems, and Apple and Google are the biggest. Apple has a tight control over Safari on iOS. Safari has been defeated on Desktop though.

I disagree. Safari way outperforms Chrome on MacOS while using considerably less battery. I know, it's behind on some features/standards though.

I work with many not very technical mac users who mostly use apple provided apps like mail, notes, reminders and icloud. Only thing everyone installs is Chrome.

Safari desktop is quite dead.

Re: Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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Seeing its provenance, I have never considered Chrome or Chromium an option for daily use. The same way I have never been tempted to create a Gmail - or indeed any kind of Google - account. Still mystified why such huge numbers of people - also among the well informed - find it a worthwhile trade handing over the generality of their life to this monolith in return for some perceived marginal gains in speed og useabil…

Interesting. Do you mind sharing your browser setup (Firefox?) and extensions setup , workflow?

My setup and workflow are unremarkable and will bore you to tears. Linux & Firefox on all my desktops. Firefox uMatrix'ed to within an inch of its life, and with one of those extensions that kill all cookies from a given tab as soon as you close it.. Every now and again I have to temporarily allow one access or another - some sites break if not allowed use of Google TagManager, for example. I keep a seperate profile for a few known sites which I occasionally must use, and which absolutely refuse to function without live access to all the evil empires of the world. My searches go through DuckDuckGo, with a detour to Startpage whenever things don't work out. Oh, and Youtube videos. I never stream. I go there, often via proxy, and I download the thing before watching. For mail, I run all the boring stuff via FastMail, and some personal correspondance through my own server, running on an old discarded thin client with a usb stick for storage. It's a good thing I don't really like the Go language, or I should find myself in a dilemma.

Re: Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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Chrome lost all my browser history, bookmarks, settings and extensions when I let someone else log into chrome and log out again. I now try to use Firefox for non Google services but still use multiple gmail/docs accounts in chrome for performance.

Even if I hadn't already had a terrible experience with their login feature, it is a privacy violation. I haven't agreed to have my browser history and other private data uploaded to an advertising company. The argument that most users want this is flawed: many would object to giving Google access to this without permission. Maybe the EU will step in?

Re: Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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Except battery, it is a battery destroyer unfortunately.

One would think that would be as a direct result of consuming more resources, not less. What is it doing to drain your power, do you know? I really want to switch from Chrome -> Firefox for dev work but my MBP’s battery already lasts nowhere near “10 hours”...

Last time I played around with comparing, Chrome and Firefox were comparable in terms of battery drain on my MBP. However they were both significantly worse than Safari, which barely ever turns on the discrete GPU while I'm browsing.

Re: Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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Chromium Ungoogled repo [1] made it to the `top30` some days ago. I too have switched back to Firefox with the release of Quantum and have been very pleased. Frankly, I am amazed every day that Ungoogled Chromium, Firefox, & DDG.co are as good as they are. (aka: slightly inferior to Google regarding product polish, but truly "good enough" 98% of the time - without selling my future data down the drain) (edited: to fi…

I really want to use Firefox on Android, but I need a couple things: Desperately need the scrolling in Firefox to feel like scrolling in the rest of the apps. And I would very much like easy tab switching by swiping across the title bar thing, and the new tab/new incognito/back button behaviour. Pls Moz pls

Chrome style scrolling is default now.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17032056

Re: Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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I rate Firefox pretty highly since Quantum released. It's fast, polished and in my unscientific testing, consumes less resources.

I switched to FF mobile few weeks ago and I am very pleased. FF desktop however turned me away because it felt quite laggy.

is there some option i'm missing? i'm trying to switch over on tablet, but ff touch detection or 'guessing where they meant to touch' is just horrible. i have to zoom in like crazy to hit the upvote button on hn while on chrome it just works, or i might be trying to click on an article on the front page but end up hitting the comments section.

i usually prefer the desktop version of websites since mobile often times looks more awkward on tablet. but with ff i almost have no choice.

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