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Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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Re: Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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Many years ago I shared that I browse across several browsers, separating usage depending on the site I am visiting. + Gmail, Drive, Google Calendar = Chrome + Sites I trust = Firefox + Sites I do not know or trust = Firefox Private browsing (or Firefox Focus on Android) This involves cautiously copying links from browser to browser, and if I make a mistake I have a scorched Earth policy of the history and cookies. T…

I used to this do exactly, but switching to Firefox containers made Chrome redundant. Chrome uses too much memory to leave it running just for few websites, and Google including analytics script as builtin library was the last straw.

I feel the same way, but unfortunately I have some things tied Chrome-only extensions or apps. They really need to work on any WebExtension-capable platform...

Re: Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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This update really broke a lot of things. There are a lot of services that rely on the first logged in google account. I used to log into chrome with a personal account, and log into gmail/etc first with my business account. That way, my bookmarks and history would stay with me personally, but things that I use a lot, work email/google cloud etc would open as default under the work account. One common issue is some s…

I'm not sure how attached you are to your browser, but if you're open to switching: you can use Firefox Accounts for syncing in Firefox, and use Multi-Account Containers [1] to stay logged in with different Google accounts.

[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...

Re: Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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I had an instinctual gut reaction against this, because it really does feel like it crosses a line between browser and content that shouldn't be crossed. BUT -- I know a lot of regular (non-technical) users who are terrified of logging into shared/public computers with their Google accounts, because they can't tell the difference between logging in/out of Gmail and logging in/out of Chrome, and they've experienced/he…

"terrified of logging into shared/public computers with their Google accounts"

I'm terrified of logging into any site on a public computer.

Re: Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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Switched back to Firefox with container tabs half a year ago and I'm pretty happy with it.

Agreed. Mozilla has a special container just for Facebook and I use that. Other people have made similar special containers for Google, etc. but I don't trust them as much as Mozilla. So I use one container for Google properties (gmail, YouTube, etc.), a different one for social networks other than Facebook (Twitter, Reddit, etc.), and a third for shopping (eBay, Amazon, etc.) You can teach Firefox to always open cer…

Is there a way to open subtabs within each container? Ie in the google container I’d like subtabs for YouTube, Gmail, calendar, drive, etc

Opening up every google service in its own google container seems like a recipe to forget once and leave google cookies in your shopping container, for example

Re: Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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I feel like there's some implied assumption here that this change lets Google do something evil that they couldn't do before, but I don't really see what. If you're logged into Google properties (independent of browser), Google can already track you across most of the internet, via their Ads and Analytics embedded in a rather large percentage of web sites. If you don't want Google to track you on non-Google web sites…

> Firefox has a concept of profiles but AFAICT you can only run one profile at a time. :( You can have one primary firefox instance, and any number of instances that have the "--no-remote" flag set, each running different profiles. Any links you click outside of firefox (e.g. xdg-open) will use the primary firefox. The 'firefox --no-remote -P' trick has worked for longer than chrome has existed and I've been using it…

What is the memory hit though. Do the separate profile processes share some of the library memory or do they each reuse a lot of memory. I’d assume chrome profiles being natively supported via a easy GUI means the separate profile processes are able to share memory??

Re: Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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Seeing its provenance, I have never considered Chrome or Chromium an option for daily use. The same way I have never been tempted to create a Gmail - or indeed any kind of Google - account. Still mystified why such huge numbers of people - also among the well informed - find it a worthwhile trade handing over the generality of their life to this monolith in return for some perceived marginal gains in speed og useabil…

Interesting. Do you mind sharing your browser setup (Firefox?) and extensions setup , workflow?

Re: Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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This is very bad. There are so many reasons why I want to be able to use Gmail without having google track all of my activity across search and maps. I have been a loyal Chrome user since pretty much launch, because it was the fastest browser and mostly seemed to stay that way over the years. I understand why Google is doing this from a monopolistic “control all the things” perspective, and this will probably increas…

> This is very bad. There are so many reasons why I want to be able to use Gmail without having google track all of my activity across search and maps. But I don't think this Chrome release changed anything with regards to that? It's been the case for more than a decade that if you're logged into gmail you're also logged into search, maps, apps, etc. And if you log out of one, you log out of all of them. Whatever wor…

The problem is that even most devs (I’m just gonna assume and pull this assumption outta my ass) don’t have the time or energy to put into such jailed browser windows. I think I used to a bit, but sometimes I’d forget and log into a service in my non google windows, etc. It got to be too much work. There has to be a better way to manage this.

Re: Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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I had an instinctual gut reaction against this, because it really does feel like it crosses a line between browser and content that shouldn't be crossed. BUT -- I know a lot of regular (non-technical) users who are terrified of logging into shared/public computers with their Google accounts, because they can't tell the difference between logging in/out of Gmail and logging in/out of Chrome, and they've experienced/he…

"terrified of logging into shared/public computers with their Google accounts" I'm terrified of logging into any site on a public computer.

It will cost you around $5 each month that you actually need to use it (mostly because of the Microsoft RDP license), but with AWS AppStream with an image with a browser, you are not leaving any traces of your browsing on the local computer.
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