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Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by djrogers »

mtgx wrote: post #224
abalone wrote: post #200

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Also several of the iCloud services are E2E encrypted and designed to withstand adversarial clouds. They talked about it at Blackhat.[1] Doesn't help things like mail or photos, of course, but it is extremely notable in the China context for one big reason: it does E2E encrypt messages. WhatsApp was banned from China when they implemented this. Apple stands out in this way... although they're probably getting away wi…

Yeah but even if they use e2e, which btw was found to be flawed at the protocol design level by prof. Matthew Greene and his team, they also automatically back-up the messages to iCloud with no way to disable that without disabling the whole of icloud. It would sure be nice if they changed that.

This is categorically and demonstrably false. Backing up to iCloud is disabled by default, as is Messages in iCloud. Either can be enabled or disabled as desired with no ill effect on your device or the rest of iCloud usage.

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Post by djrogers »

saagarjha wrote: post #50
joezydeco wrote: post #40

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What's the typical sequence when a new iOS version hits and then all the apps that were developed in beta need to release fully?

They're given a couple days to submit apps built with the golden master version of Xcode. Usually, this is on the day the new iPhones are announced.

We got the GMs last Monday, so we got a week to regression test against it vs the previous betas.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by saagarjha »

djrogers wrote: post #302
saagarjha wrote: post #50

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They're given a couple days to submit apps built with the golden master version of Xcode. Usually, this is on the day the new iPhones are announced.

We got the GMs last Monday, so we got a week to regression test against it vs the previous betas.

Well, the Xcode GM dropped with the new hardware because it contains references to it. So you weren't allowed to submit with a beta toolchain before then.

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Post by speg »

SentientNo4 wrote: post #186
anselmio wrote: post #119

The new Shortcuts app by Apple (must be downloaded separately: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/workflow/id915249334?mt=8 ) is definitely interesting. An example from the description: "Run custom scripts in Safari with the new Run JavaScript on Web Page action". Edit: Just discovered that there's also "Run Script Over SSH" that takes input passed to a shell script (stdin) and returns the output from the shell script (…

The "new" app is actually not so new, and it was previously called Workflow ( https://www.workflow.is/ ). Looks like they bought it and rebranded it as Shortcuts.

I never used it before, or maybe once on my iPad. But did it have as tight an integration before? I assume Apple added some iOS level things that really put it over the top. The Siri shortcut for sure. Either way I’ve already spent a couple hours with it today just hacking random scripts together. It’s great!

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Post by lisper »

kbos87 wrote: post #20

“Apple believes privacy is a fundamental human right, which is why iOS has always been designed with built-in encryption, on-device intelligence, and other tools that let you share what you want on your terms.” It isn’t often that you see any company the size of Apple take that strong of a stance. Privacy is their best feature and it seems like they are doubling down.

> Apple believes privacy is a fundamental human right

But not the ability to run software not approved by Apple.

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Post by dev_stdout »

jedberg wrote: post #3

I've been using the beta for a few months now. Overall I'm pretty impressed. It really does make my phone work better than before. But I'm most excited about Waze support on CarPlay, which does not appear to have dropped today.

I’m in the Waze beta program, and just received the update that has CarPlay support. I’ve only done about 15 minutes of testing but so far it works pretty well.

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Post by erichocean »

fermienrico wrote: post #282
ljm wrote: post #171

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Provided this position is 100% genuine (and by all accounts, there is no clear indication that it isn't), that it comes from Apple gives the pro-privacy stance a hell of a lot of clout. If a company like Apple is investing in privacy then the consumer must assume that privacy has a lot more value than the government insists, no? For those who are security conscious it's a great reason to get an iPhone over an Android…

No one is mentioning that Apple is a hardware company first. They're not an ad company that makes hardware. Completely different approach and their stance for privacy makes sense.

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Post by fermienrico »

erichocean wrote: post #307
fermienrico wrote: post #282

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No one is mentioning that Apple is a hardware company first. They're not an ad company that makes hardware. Completely different approach and their stance for privacy makes sense.

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Your comment is totally absurd and unrelated. We are talking about Privacy - if you're in the business of selling targeted ads (Google), you have a conflict of interest with regards to Privacy. What does this have to do with driving competitors to ground!???

Edit: Looks like you've edited with additional information. Still you're off track with my point.

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Post by SpaceGorilla »

drampelt wrote: post #292
2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #269

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I have Apple and Android phones. I have a specific google account for my Android phones specifically because you can’t do anything on an Android without logging in. iPhones still work as phones just without cloud storage.

Maybe I'm missing something here but what can't you do on Android without logging in (other than Google services of course)? You can download apps to do pretty much anything you want without even touching the Play Store, as far as I'm aware you need an iCloud account to download any apps on an iPhone.

Yea, not sure what he's talking about. You can choose not to sign into Google and use the web browser to install either fdroid or Aurora as the app store. Pretty sure you need to sign into iTunes to use the apple app store and cannot install any ipa?'s.
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