iOS 12 released • Hacker News Board

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by xnyan » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 10:58 PM UTC

simongr3dal wrote: post #157

speg wrote: post #71

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Already noticing small but appreciated performance improvements. Share sheet and app switching both came up noticeably quicker. Am loving shortcuts, looks like they didn't dumb it down. There's even an SSH action.

Sadly it doesn't look like it supports ssh-keys.

I only use SSH keys, but if one uses a sufficiently complex password my understanding is that the primary risk of a password vs key is that the SSH host gets a copy of it (specifically /etc/shadow). If you control the host, I could see a password being an acceptable solution, maybe.

Worlflow/shortcuts can also arbitrarily HTTP GET/POSTs which is likely the better route in any case.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by fermienrico » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 11:05 PM UTC

ljm wrote: post #171

kbos87 wrote: post #20

“Apple believes privacy is a fundamental human right, which is why iOS has always been designed with built-in encryption, on-device intelligence, and other tools that let you share what you want on your terms.” It isn’t often that you see any company the size of Apple take that strong of a stance. Privacy is their best feature and it seems like they are doubling down.

Provided this position is 100% genuine (and by all accounts, there is no clear indication that it isn't), that it comes from Apple gives the pro-privacy stance a hell of a lot of clout. If a company like Apple is investing in privacy then the consumer must assume that privacy has a lot more value than the government insists, no? For those who are security conscious it's a great reason to get an iPhone over an Android…

No one is mentioning that Apple is a hardware company first. They're not an ad company that makes hardware. Completely different approach and their stance for privacy makes sense.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by sizzle » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 11:06 PM UTC

Will iPhone ever get bootcamp functionality to run Android, similar to how macOS can run windows?

From a legal perspective, could they allow the ability to boot Android without fear of lawsuit, given they allow you to boot Windows via bootcamp?

Putting technical feasibility aside, I would be iPhone for life if that was even possible.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by xnyan » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 11:07 PM UTC

jplayer01 wrote: post #223

fitzroy wrote: post #33

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Also, for anyone thinking of using iBooks with iCloud Drive (iBooks syncing via iCloud, or whatever it's called) and importing ebooks or PDFs from iCloud Drive into iBooks, be aware that they will disappear whenever your device is low on space. I loaded up a bunch of travel books on a 32GB iPad for an overseas trip this summer only to have them all evaporate shortly thereafter. Every time I got on decent WiFi I would…

This is what the App Store is for, no? There are a bunch of great ePub/pdf apps that aren’t designed by Apple.

Google Play Books is not fancy but it does work fine, is crossplatform and free.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by MBCook » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 11:08 PM UTC

gnicholas wrote: post #278

anselmio wrote: post #119

The new Shortcuts app by Apple (must be downloaded separately: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/workflow/id915249334?mt=8 ) is definitely interesting. An example from the description: "Run custom scripts in Safari with the new Run JavaScript on Web Page action". Edit: Just discovered that there's also "Run Script Over SSH" that takes input passed to a shell script (stdin) and returns the output from the shell script (…

> Run custom scripts in Safari with the new Run JavaScript on Web Page action Does this mean it's possible to have a javascript run after page load every time? This would effectively make it possible to have a browser extension. Previously it was limited to "action extensions" — which had to be manually activated on every single page. This could take 2-3 taps, and obviously they were hardly ever used.

I think you have to manually trigger it.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by MBCook » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 11:12 PM UTC

wlesieutre wrote: post #78

joezydeco wrote: post #40

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What's the typical sequence when a new iOS version hits and then all the apps that were developed in beta need to release fully?

They've been allowed to post on the store for a couple of days, I think. I installed a bunch of updates yesterday and most of them were "Added Siri Shortcuts support."

It’s been uneven as usual. There have been stories of apps being rejected because they mentioned new features or iOS 12 in the release notes even though other apps have been able to do that.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by latexr » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 11:14 PM UTC

SentientNo4 wrote: post #186

anselmio wrote: post #119

The new Shortcuts app by Apple (must be downloaded separately: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/workflow/id915249334?mt=8 ) is definitely interesting. An example from the description: "Run custom scripts in Safari with the new Run JavaScript on Web Page action". Edit: Just discovered that there's also "Run Script Over SSH" that takes input passed to a shell script (stdin) and returns the output from the shell script (…

The "new" app is actually not so new, and it was previously called Workflow ( https://www.workflow.is/ ). Looks like they bought it and rebranded it as Shortcuts.

The bought it early last year. https://techcrunch.com/2017/03/22/apple-has-acquired-workflo...

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by AndrewKemendo » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 11:15 PM UTC

chrisper wrote: post #128

How is using a custom keyboard on iOS? I remember it being really bad... like it always resetting to the stock keyboard etc.

I use Swype and it seems to work fine. Only every once in a while does it glitch in any noticeable way.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by MBCook » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 11:16 PM UTC

akvadrako wrote: post #178

thijsvandien wrote: post #107

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Until a couple of days ago, the SE was still on sale directly from Apple. I expect many more major updates to come.

Right - it should be at least 3 years more.

Plus it’s the same as an iPhone 6s. So no reason to drop support unless you’re also going to drop that.

When it goes unless they’re making a very specific decision to remove the smallest screen size there’s going to be a LOT of phones getting cut.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by cromwellian » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 11:18 PM UTC

beerlord wrote: post #100

Its impressive that Apple is still supporting the iPhone 5S - a device released in 2013. By contrast Google's Nexus 5 flagship Android phone, also released in 2013, received its last major updated in 2015. 5 years of software updates (and probably more to come) vs 2 years - that's why I switched from Android to iPhone.

That’s mostly a function of controlling your own CPU architecture, as android IHVs are heavily dependent on updates from Qualcomm and others.

Also, while they have supported old devices, they do from time to time unceremoniously make old apps incompatible which then stop working.

Microsoft still has them beat in terms of backwards app compatibility in Os upgrades and MS did it over a diverse ecosystem of hardware which is far more costly.