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Re: iOS 12 released

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How is using a custom keyboard on iOS? I remember it being really bad... like it always resetting to the stock keyboard etc.

The only problem I have with it is you can't use them for password fields. It would be nice if my password manager could provide a keyboard.

LastPass has a "share" action that will autofill - I think that should work regardless of keyboard.

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Your question is still unclear to me: are you asking if they advertise on platforms that collect and use data to match users with ads (Facebook and google), or if they buy data from firms to use in their own advertisements / marketing campaigns. I don’t know the answer to either question, but I assume the answer to the first is yes of course they advertise on these platforms (on google at least), and the answer to th…

I was mostly meaning the first example you provided. These platforms are so good (at least they claim to be) at matching users and ads because of their extensive data collection/sharing practices. Is it cool to say "We respect our users privacy" if they are benefiting directly from another companies less privacy respecting practices?

They have no choice. There is no technical way for Apple to monitor what data apps are sending out without doing something like MITM every connection which is a million times worse.

So they have to rely on a punishment model where they demand apps provide a privacy policy then kick them off the store if they fail to comply with it.

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I'm still on iOS 10 on my iPhone SE. Why should I upgrade? Even if there was a convincing reason to, I'm afraid performance will tank, as it often does on older iPhones getting their last update.

Many of the major app developers only support two OS versions back, eg iOS 11 and iOS 12 now. If you don't upgrade then you might stop getting updates for some apps.

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Provided this position is 100% genuine (and by all accounts, there is no clear indication that it isn't), that it comes from Apple gives the pro-privacy stance a hell of a lot of clout. If a company like Apple is investing in privacy then the consumer must assume that privacy has a lot more value than the government insists, no? For those who are security conscious it's a great reason to get an iPhone over an Android…

I've asked this before on here and didn't get much of a response. If Apple truly believes in privacy, does this mean that they have a strict policy against using the data provided by companies that have a lower ethical stance on data collection? Is it more ethical to pay and benefit from the data for targeted advertising than it is to collect the data yourself? Edit: On re-read I thought it might be unclear what I'm…

Yet Apple makes money from apps that collect data, made by developers.

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Yeah but even if they use e2e, which btw was found to be flawed at the protocol design level by prof. Matthew Greene and his team, they also automatically back-up the messages to iCloud with no way to disable that without disabling the whole of icloud. It would sure be nice if they changed that.

Can you elaborate on what you mean by "e2e was found to be flawed"? Is the paper available online?

Commenter probably meant this research[0].

[0] - https://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2016/03/21/attack-o...

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Also several of the iCloud services are E2E encrypted and designed to withstand adversarial clouds. They talked about it at Blackhat.[1] Doesn't help things like mail or photos, of course, but it is extremely notable in the China context for one big reason: it does E2E encrypt messages. WhatsApp was banned from China when they implemented this. Apple stands out in this way... although they're probably getting away wi…

Yeah but even if they use e2e, which btw was found to be flawed at the protocol design level by prof. Matthew Greene and his team, they also automatically back-up the messages to iCloud with no way to disable that without disabling the whole of icloud. It would sure be nice if they changed that.

There is the option in Settings to disable storing Messages and Backups in iCloud.

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For iCloud Drive, we should be able to manage which files are saved locally and which aren’t. As is, documents can be manually downloaded but there’s no way to reverse it and have the given documents stored back only in the cloud (freeing up local storage). Then magically a week or more later stuff is uploaded and no longer stored locally. It feels fickle and frustrating.

It's been a lond time, but I read that you can add specific suffixes to folder names to control syncing. I think it was ".nosync" and ".tmp"

Not sure what kind of dumb method this is. You can't possibly change a project's folder name just because of your need.

At least if it was by creating an empty file with that name.

Also iCloud Drive's synching has been an utter mess and I gave up after nothing syncs at random times.

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Its impressive that Apple is still supporting the iPhone 5S - a device released in 2013. By contrast Google's Nexus 5 flagship Android phone, also released in 2013, received its last major updated in 2015. 5 years of software updates (and probably more to come) vs 2 years - that's why I switched from Android to iPhone.

That's why I always chuckle when people accuse Apple of planned obsolescence. I'm sure Apple would prefer that you update your iPhone every year, but relative to all other Android flagships I'm aware of, 5 years of OS updates is massive.

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Though I believe Apple bowed to China to give them access to Chinese citizen's iCloud data. But you can operate an iPhone without iCloud fairly easily, which is definitely nice. Doing more on-device helps them here. https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/18/17587304/apple-icloud-chi...

> an iPhone without iCloud Would it send less telemetry data to Apple?

You are asked every single OS update whether you want to enable telemetry or not.

And the default is no.

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“Apple believes privacy is a fundamental human right, which is why iOS has always been designed with built-in encryption, on-device intelligence, and other tools that let you share what you want on your terms.” It isn’t often that you see any company the size of Apple take that strong of a stance. Privacy is their best feature and it seems like they are doubling down.

Though I believe Apple bowed to China to give them access to Chinese citizen's iCloud data. But you can operate an iPhone without iCloud fairly easily, which is definitely nice. Doing more on-device helps them here. https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/18/17587304/apple-icloud-chi...

Without a public statement even saying they disagree with it, which seems to go against their pro-privacy principles and goes against what they've done in other government-based privacy disagreements they've had. I wish they'd make actions against their principles more transparent lest people think it's just lip service they are paying to the masses.
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