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Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by wlesieutre » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 9:36 PM UTC

DenisM wrote: post #193

wincy wrote: post #179

So from my testing with the beta, then having to roll back and losing 100GB of music, be aware that if you have an original Apple Watch, it’s not compatible with iOS12.

The just-release Watch OS 5 is compatible with Watch 1: https://www.apple.com/watchos/watchos-5/ so w 1 should be compatible with iOS 12

"Series 1" is not the original Apple Watch model. Confusingly, that's officially named "Apple Watch First Generation" and colloquially called "Series 0".

When they released the Series 2 with better processor, GPS, brighter screen and better waterproofing, they simultaneously killed the "Series 0" and launched the Series 1 as the low price model. It got the new processor but not the other improvements.

That leaves the Series 0 as the only one with the original crappy processor, and support for that has been dropped in watchOS 5.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by retromario » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 9:37 PM UTC

"On devices without 3D Touch, touch and hold the keyboard Space bar to turn your keyboard into a trackpad"

This is subtle but huge. One of the main reasons to get a phone with 3D touch is/was the ability to easily move your cursor when typing. This makes the XR model (which lacks 3D touch) a lot more enticing.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by FridgeSeal » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 9:38 PM UTC

dialtone wrote: post #146

kbos87 wrote: post #20

“Apple believes privacy is a fundamental human right, which is why iOS has always been designed with built-in encryption, on-device intelligence, and other tools that let you share what you want on your terms.” It isn’t often that you see any company the size of Apple take that strong of a stance. Privacy is their best feature and it seems like they are doubling down.

The fact that each device has an IDFA that any app can share with literally anyone in the world, without the need to tell you, because IDFA is a quasi-persistent identifier I suppose doesn't matter.

Some FUD here, both Android and iOS (and Windows Phone, when it was a thing) have these advertising identifiers.

Both platforms allow you to disable tracking and/or reset the identifier to something new.

However, if you disable tracking on Android, it just changes the value of another variable called (to the effect of) "Ad tracking enabled" and you are politely asked to not "target ads" towards that ID. It's important to note here, that nothing ever stops you, you're just asked to. You can still harvest data, you can still analyse and sell it, but you just can't advertise back to them.

In comparison, disabling Ad tracking on iOS gives you the zeroed out advertising ID (which is shared with everyone else who opts out, which means you blend into the crowd (which makes that data more difficult to usefully separate and analyse).

Pretty sure Apple doesn't let you bundle dozens of Advertising SDK's that harvest everything by default either.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by ihuman » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 9:39 PM UTC

MacStories has published their yearly review of the new iOS. The 42250-word long breakdown of iOS 12 goes into detail on every new feature.

https://www.macstories.net/stories/ios-12-the-macstories-rev...

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by occamschainsaw » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 9:40 PM UTC

ender341341 wrote: post #133

chrisper wrote: post #128

How is using a custom keyboard on iOS? I remember it being really bad... like it always resetting to the stock keyboard etc.

The only problem I have with it is you can't use them for password fields. It would be nice if my password manager could provide a keyboard.

It works with Lastpass too!

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by QasimK » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 9:40 PM UTC

Silhouette wrote: post #81

kbos87 wrote: post #20

“Apple believes privacy is a fundamental human right, which is why iOS has always been designed with built-in encryption, on-device intelligence, and other tools that let you share what you want on your terms.” It isn’t often that you see any company the size of Apple take that strong of a stance. Privacy is their best feature and it seems like they are doubling down.

Privacy is their best feature and it seems like they are doubling down. Indeed. Between that and the imminent arrival of dual-SIM iPhones, I may actually want to buy something here. And yet, for all the information Apple provide about security and privacy, including much talk of end-to-end encryption in some cases, I have so far been unable to determine the fundamental way that all of their online services work and w…

I’ve read the entire iOS security guide (seriously; version ~9/10), and while I don’t remember the specifics, I distinctly remember coming to the conclusion that I could not use most iCloud features as they did not provide the same privacy as on-devices features. I distinctly remember that your photos can be seen by Apple as that was the main thing I wanted to know.

Some things, like the keychain, are not accessible by Apple, and only on your enrolled devices.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by ecesena » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 9:44 PM UTC

therockhead wrote: post #150

Confiks wrote: post #96

Does anyone know if and what concrete changes have been made to Core NFC, beyond the speculation beforehand [1]? I understand there has been a beta of iOS 12 for a while now. The documentation still shows information for iOS 11 [2] [1] https://9to5mac.com/2018/05/25/apple-will-reportedly-open-up... [2] https://developer.apple.com/documentation/corenfc

The WWDC app has a new short video called “What’s new in Core NFC” which mentiones the new features in the Iphones such as reading NFC in the background.

Any news on writes? I assume no... :/

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by wpdev_63 » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 9:45 PM UTC

kbos87 wrote: post #20

“Apple believes privacy is a fundamental human right, which is why iOS has always been designed with built-in encryption, on-device intelligence, and other tools that let you share what you want on your terms.” It isn’t often that you see any company the size of Apple take that strong of a stance. Privacy is their best feature and it seems like they are doubling down.

It will be interesting to see if they "fixed the bugs" that allows the nsa onto ios.

points browser to eff.org

Ever since that letter I can't take Tim Cook or Apple by their word.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by wlesieutre » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 9:47 PM UTC

gwking wrote: post #238

wlesieutre wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm personally hoping for correct message ordering in iMessage. It frequently puts replies to questions before the question had been asked, so reading back through conversations makes very little sense. That's been around for years as well, so again no holding my breath. At least it's faster!

Do you use multiple iOS devices or perhaps Messages on Mac? This bug has been driving me crazy for the last year at least, and I've noticed that it happens more often when I'm using messages on the laptop and phone.

Yeah, I have a Mac, iPhone, and iPad. The photo example I mentioned in another comment was definitely all on one device (I took the photo on my phone, sent it from my phone, and received the out-of-order response on my phone), but maybe even the presence of iCloud syncing is enough to screw it up.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by pbarnes_1 » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 9:48 PM UTC

saagarjha wrote: post #50

joezydeco wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the typical sequence when a new iOS version hits and then all the apps that were developed in beta need to release fully?

They're given a couple days to submit apps built with the golden master version of Xcode. Usually, this is on the day the new iPhones are announced.

And every year Apple introduces bugs in the GM build that weren't there in the last beta build.

Always fun to be an iOS dev. :)