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What Most Remote Companies Don’t Tell You About Remote Work

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Re: What Most Remote Companies Don’t Tell You About Remote Work

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the article highlights very avoidable problems. i have lived completely remotely for the last 2 years – hotels, different countries etc., have not spend over 60 days in a single location at a time. i think it is amazing once you know how to do certain things well: - have a very well-adapted set of routines. - know how to maintain deep relationships everywhere - appreciate different places for different things - are b…

i read your article, and im praying that it's satire. and if not, i'm extremely concerned that it has 34k "claps" or whatever you call it on medium

lol. it is not satire. the claps are just a reflection of that a lot of people consider this a good life strategy.

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Traveling is like going to meetings. If you don't have a lot of work to do - great. If it gets in the way of accomplishing something good it becomes a pain point.

But there's also where you have to travel. Middle of fucking nowhere? Oh joy. Hot? Cold? Dangerous? Yeah, nah. Not so much.

I like to think you can find the good in almost any area. When I travel I make it a point to eat at local restaurants. No chains. I’ve had some really good food and met great people.

I haven’t been anywhere exceptionally dangerous since I was younger.

Re: What Most Remote Companies Don’t Tell You About Remote Work

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I've been remote for almost 8 years now. I love it and dread ever having to go back into an office. Faking productivity for show when the workload is low was the worst feeling, as if I was wasting my time and life. Plus I have social anxiety and the pressure to 'fit in' was overwhelming. Now I work from home where my wife and toddler are. Being home to educate her is worth more than just about anything. I don't have…

Now I work from home where my wife and toddler are. Being home to educate her is worth more than just about anything. I don't have to drive 2 hours every day just to be an ass in a seat. Two hours where all I do is sit in a car and wish to be home. To be fair, an hour by car each way is on the long side of a commute, at least compared to the US average. (For some cities, it's probably pretty good.)

It takes me an hour to get to work and an hour and half back. But, I live in California and only 11 miles from work. Moving out here from the southern US was mind-boggling when it came to the traffic.

I live in a damn nightmare now and am looking forward to the day I move out of this state in less than a year.

Re: What Most Remote Companies Don’t Tell You About Remote Work

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Great article that really highlights the negative aspects of Digital Nomadism. I work with some folks that do this, and when we talk about it, they can't understand why I would want to just stay in my medium-sized city and travel a few times a year. Like, why wouldn't you want to spend 6 months a year in Thailand? It's such a no-brainer! And for me, it's just sort of mind-boggling that you'd jet set around the world.…

What I don't like is the way people are conflating work and travel. Sometimes people tell me they go down the beach or a nice park to code etc, I just couldn't think of anything worse.

One thing I love about traveling is when I set aside time to "focus on traveling", do I really want to be traveling through some beautiful place while staring at my devices and responding to email? Nope.

I have worked full-time remote, from a well setup home office. That was fine.

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I agree with vinbreau. I've been 100% remote for about 10 years now and echo his comments. > I also don't want to have superficial conversations with coworkers I would argue this is a problem with the relationship between you and your coworkers and/or the size of your company and nothing to do with the means by which you communicate. Some of these people also may just not be your "kind" of person you like. In additio…

> Just because a person is next to me doesn't mean I like him or will have a deep relationship with him/her. This is absolutely true, of course. What I would like to point out is that interaction in the physical space is higher resolution than what you tend to get in virtual environments. In my experience, when you make a remote friend, you have even better interactions when you're together physically. It's sort of l…

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Re: What Most Remote Companies Don’t Tell You About Remote Work

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People who want to go to Thailand are ignorant — it’s a red flag you can use to spot naive people. Thailand sucks. It’s filled with crime and people there are very petty. Usually it takes Americans several years of living there to realize this. Anyway, I also think it’s dumb when people attribute their happiness to one thing or another. A featured tweet said that “crafting things with my hands is key to my happiness.…

If you keep posting uncivilly and unsubstantively like this we'll ban the account. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Excuse me? What is so uncivil about my comment? I would point out the flaws of my own country just as quickly as I would those of Thailand. The culture of Thailand is a burden to its people, as well as its economic and education situation. To brush aside my comment is to condemn the good people of Thailand because without broaching the elephant in the room, nothing will change. Please take your fake social justice elsewhere, especially far away from your moderation duties.

Re: What Most Remote Companies Don’t Tell You About Remote Work

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I’ve never worked from a real office or even had a “real” job.

This doesn't outright invalidate the main thrust of the piece, but it does perhaps explain the rose colored glasses he appears to have for the benefits of a normal job.

I was a homemaker for many years. Then I had a corporate job. I've done remote freelance work since.

Jobs can be crazy making, soul sucking and put you in awful situations you have no control over. People put up with it because they need a paycheck.

My mom was a homemaker for a long time and also did freelance work from home for years before going to work. I'm perhaps more prepared than most to live this way because I saw it growing up.

I'm all for finding ways to improve the status quo. That can be done without injecting so much judgy drama into the problem space.

He begins with talking about leaving a girlfriend and moving elsewhere and how miserable he was. He basically blames his misery on doing remote work.

I lived in the same house from age 3 until I was an adult. I got married, he joined the army and we went to outer first duty station. I was miserable. It was horrible. It took me years to stop blaming Texas and realize I would have been miserable anywhere.

It was a huge shock to my life to move someplace new. I had no coping skills at all for such a scenario.

You can't blame remote work for the misery of combining multiple major shocks like dumping a girlfriend and leaving town. That's not realistic. You can have that same scenario without remote work, such as by joining the military.

I do occasionally have to stop and make a conscious effort to count my blessings. Working the way I do allowed me to repeatedly move pretty much at will and that has benefited me tremendously. It helped me solve problems that would have been much more nightmarish if I needed to job hunt to move.

I wish him well in meeting his goals of improving remote work for his people. But I respectfully suggest he first disentangle some things from it in his mind that he is conflating as due to working remotely.

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Why is there so much pressure on Americans to leave their family's home as soon as possible? I lived with my parents and my two sisters in Mexico until I got married at 32 and I think that helped me avoid depression in my twenties. Had I've been alone in those years I think I would have killed myself. And apart for having moral support it was financially sound. When I was doing well with my freelance gigs I would con…

Other comments have mentioned culture, individualism, etc. The society as a whole expects you to portray freedom and success. Financial, responsibility, mobility, and we're pretty selfish even to our family. I'd say, yes living with your parents as an adult is a negative stereotype, there's a stigma to it deep enough that most people just WANT to leave the nest. They also want freedom from their parents/rules/etc so…

>Parents can be rather selfish too, most can't wait until their kids turn 18 and leave the house. The want to live alone too.

This is the worst aspect of it. The hypocrisy! When I was young and naive, I believed parents loved to have the kids around. Oh boy. Don't they right? The only problem is that they want us still to be kids, and won't leave the household to you and let you live a full adult life there. If you are going to live with them, they want you to depend on them, and they want you to let them be the one who runs the house. All the sob stories you hear, when you are growing up, about kids leaving their parents won't tell you that side of the story.

So if you are a kid in the same situation, and have philosophical/ideological difference about how to life a human adult life, DO NOT PLAN ON living with your parents if objectively they don't need it. Don't do it becuase of some romantic notion of the "right thing" that the mainstream narrative has fed you. *ITS FUCKING BULLSHIT!"...

Re: What Most Remote Companies Don’t Tell You About Remote Work

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Why is there so much pressure on Americans to leave their family's home as soon as possible? I lived with my parents and my two sisters in Mexico until I got married at 32 and I think that helped me avoid depression in my twenties. Had I've been alone in those years I think I would have killed myself. And apart for having moral support it was financially sound. When I was doing well with my freelance gigs I would con…

Not all Americans conform to those stereotypes.

My sons still live with me. The oldest is 31.

We have good excuses that are culturally acceptable. But I basically don't care what other people think.

Re: What Most Remote Companies Don’t Tell You About Remote Work

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Great article that really highlights the negative aspects of Digital Nomadism. I work with some folks that do this, and when we talk about it, they can't understand why I would want to just stay in my medium-sized city and travel a few times a year. Like, why wouldn't you want to spend 6 months a year in Thailand? It's such a no-brainer! And for me, it's just sort of mind-boggling that you'd jet set around the world.…

Why does remote work need to be conflated with "digital nomadism"? I have worked remotely almost my entire work life (I loathed working in an office each time I went back), but I've never done the digital nomad thing. It's never appealed to me, nor is it very cost effective unless you want to throw all of your stuff into storage while you travel. I am still perplexed at how companies push offices as some kind of hype…

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