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Google is killing Fabric in mid-2019, pushes developers to Firebase

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Re: Google is killing Fabric in mid-2019, pushes developers to Firebase

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Vernor Vinge has a character who comes out of cryo and discovers that code he wrote 500 years ago is still in production. It’s just under layers and layers of abstraction. He proceeds to pwn a bunch of hardware to aid a counter-conspiracy.

What book?? That sounds like an awesome read

A Fire Upon the Deep

Re: Google is killing Fabric in mid-2019, pushes developers to Firebase

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vernor Vinge has a character who comes out of cryo and discovers that code he wrote 500 years ago is still in production. It’s just under layers and layers of abstraction. He proceeds to pwn a bunch of hardware to aid a counter-conspiracy.

What book?? That sounds like an awesome read

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Re: Google is killing Fabric in mid-2019, pushes developers to Firebase

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In 2030: app developers band together and refuse all new technology. In 3030: we're still using Firebase 2030 edition.

Vernor Vinge has a character who comes out of cryo and discovers that code he wrote 500 years ago is still in production. It’s just under layers and layers of abstraction. He proceeds to pwn a bunch of hardware to aid a counter-conspiracy.

Great book.

"What specialty do we need the most?" "You mean that can bring us the most income? Obviously: Programmer-Archeologist."

Re: Google is killing Fabric in mid-2019, pushes developers to Firebase

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This is one area where self hosted solidly wins over anything service oriented: you are in control to the point that you , and not some company somewhere can make the call on when a product is no longer viable. The decoupling that we had with licensed software that you run on infrastructure that you control is pretty close to ideal for the customer. You give the provider of the software a one time payment and after t…

Saas can get a product out fast. But yes, unless one has some kind of special contract with a Saas company ensuring the continuity of the service as long as one needs it, never rely on Saas for too long, unless the solution is open source. For all we know Firebase could be gone in 2/3 years...

Re: Google is killing Fabric in mid-2019, pushes developers to Firebase

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What book?? That sounds like an awesome read

A Fire Upon the Deep

I think it's the prequel, A Deepness in the Sky. I thought A Fire Upon the Deep had even cooler concepts though.

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In 2020: Google is killing Firebase in mid-2021, pushes developers to [NextGreatToolWhatever]

In 2025: Google decides to focus only on Search, Maps, and Mail; shuts down or divests all 243 other "side projects".

https://xkcd.com/1361/

Re: Google is killing Fabric in mid-2019, pushes developers to Firebase

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In 2030: app developers band together and refuse all new technology. In 3030: we're still using Firebase 2030 edition.

Vernor Vinge has a character who comes out of cryo and discovers that code he wrote 500 years ago is still in production. It’s just under layers and layers of abstraction. He proceeds to pwn a bunch of hardware to aid a counter-conspiracy.

I assume his editor is still vi.

Re: Google is killing Fabric in mid-2019, pushes developers to Firebase

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This is one area where self hosted solidly wins over anything service oriented: you are in control to the point that you , and not some company somewhere can make the call on when a product is no longer viable. The decoupling that we had with licensed software that you run on infrastructure that you control is pretty close to ideal for the customer. You give the provider of the software a one time payment and after t…

Saas can get a product out fast. But yes, unless one has some kind of special contract with a Saas company ensuring the continuity of the service as long as one needs it, never rely on Saas for too long, unless the solution is open source. For all we know Firebase could be gone in 2/3 years...

This is why I really like now.sh. They've put a ton of effort into fitting the patterns already in use for self deployments, with only a tiny bit of overhead on that for env vars and domain configuration (~10 short lines of configs for one of my current projects).

Re: Google is killing Fabric in mid-2019, pushes developers to Firebase

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Dammit not inbox. I've been using it since the beginning. You know this is the kind of stuff that prevents me from diving too deep into there tech and products. I love flutter but I'm scared about its fate. Flutter, Dart, Fuchsia these are some great technologies but they might end up in bin some day. In the end, I tell myself, I'm just a user. Imagine what must be the state of developers who spent years working on t…

These things come and go. One could have been just as wrong to focus on Silverlight, OpenSolaris, SmallTalk, etc, etc, etc, or even your own company's ABI.... And is it really wrong to spend a couple of years becoming an expert Plan 9 user just because it doesn't take over the world? I still think it's all (mostly) time well spent.

The risk is less when the technology is open source. With open source, at the very least you or someone else can help steward the technology if it's that important to your company.

Re: Google is killing Fabric in mid-2019, pushes developers to Firebase

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Dammit not inbox. I've been using it since the beginning. You know this is the kind of stuff that prevents me from diving too deep into there tech and products. I love flutter but I'm scared about its fate. Flutter, Dart, Fuchsia these are some great technologies but they might end up in bin some day. In the end, I tell myself, I'm just a user. Imagine what must be the state of developers who spent years working on t…

These things come and go. One could have been just as wrong to focus on Silverlight, OpenSolaris, SmallTalk, etc, etc, etc, or even your own company's ABI.... And is it really wrong to spend a couple of years becoming an expert Plan 9 user just because it doesn't take over the world? I still think it's all (mostly) time well spent.

>And is it really wrong to spend a couple of years becoming an expert Plan 9 user just because it doesn't take over the world? I still think it's all (mostly) time well spent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunity_cost

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