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Google is killing Fabric in mid-2019, pushes developers to Firebase

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Re: Google is killing Fabric in mid-2019, pushes developers to Firebase

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Post by rohan1024 »

Dammit not inbox. I've been using it since the beginning. You know this is the kind of stuff that prevents me from diving too deep into there tech and products. I love flutter but I'm scared about its fate.

Flutter, Dart, Fuchsia these are some great technologies but they might end up in bin some day.

In the end, I tell myself, I'm just a user. Imagine what must be the state of developers who spent years working on these products but then this happens in entire industry. It's just I expected better from Google.

Re: Google is killing Fabric in mid-2019, pushes developers to Firebase

#14

Post by tty7 »

hinkley wrote: post #10
vinceguidry wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In 2030: app developers band together and refuse all new technology. In 3030: we're still using Firebase 2030 edition.

Vernor Vinge has a character who comes out of cryo and discovers that code he wrote 500 years ago is still in production. It’s just under layers and layers of abstraction. He proceeds to pwn a bunch of hardware to aid a counter-conspiracy.

What book?? That sounds like an awesome read

Re: Google is killing Fabric in mid-2019, pushes developers to Firebase

#15

Post by jihadjihad »

Uhhrrr wrote: post #12

Phew, I was worried they were somehow killing http://www.fabfile.org/ .

Wow, it looks like they finally added support for Python 3.4+. I had kind of abandoned Fabric due to the lack of support past 2.7...this is fantastic news!

Re: Google is killing Fabric in mid-2019, pushes developers to Firebase

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Post by dingdingdang »

rohan1024 wrote: post #11

Dammit not inbox. I've been using it since the beginning. You know this is the kind of stuff that prevents me from diving too deep into there tech and products. I love flutter but I'm scared about its fate. Flutter, Dart, Fuchsia these are some great technologies but they might end up in bin some day. In the end, I tell myself, I'm just a user. Imagine what must be the state of developers who spent years working on t…

This is why we need truly distributed webapps rather than monolithic tied-to-domain apps. Doing this right is a hard problem and many of current solutions are still essentially centralized despite their reliance on certain aspects of P2P.

Re: Google is killing Fabric in mid-2019, pushes developers to Firebase

#17

Post by rch »

rohan1024 wrote: post #11

Dammit not inbox. I've been using it since the beginning. You know this is the kind of stuff that prevents me from diving too deep into there tech and products. I love flutter but I'm scared about its fate. Flutter, Dart, Fuchsia these are some great technologies but they might end up in bin some day. In the end, I tell myself, I'm just a user. Imagine what must be the state of developers who spent years working on t…

These things come and go. One could have been just as wrong to focus on Silverlight, OpenSolaris, SmallTalk, etc, etc, etc, or even your own company's ABI....

And is it really wrong to spend a couple of years becoming an expert Plan 9 user just because it doesn't take over the world? I still think it's all (mostly) time well spent.

Re: Google is killing Fabric in mid-2019, pushes developers to Firebase

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Post by jacquesm »

This is one area where self hosted solidly wins over anything service oriented: you are in control to the point that you, and not some company somewhere can make the call on when a product is no longer viable. The decoupling that we had with licensed software that you run on infrastructure that you control is pretty close to ideal for the customer. You give the provider of the software a one time payment and after that it literally is your problem. At the same time that is what enabled SaaS, companies do not like it when they have one-shot income over something that might generate recurring revenues, and end-users do not want to have to deal with the hassle of installing, maintaining, backing up, keeping secure and updating all this software.

Even so, every time I sign up for some SaaS component I am very much aware that I'm giving up something precious in terms of control, and every time I read an announcement like this one (or the Inbox one the other day), I'm happy that we do our best to use as little services by outsiders as possible.

Re: Google is killing Fabric in mid-2019, pushes developers to Firebase

#19

Post by toomuchtodo »

dingdingdang wrote: post #16
rohan1024 wrote: post #11

Dammit not inbox. I've been using it since the beginning. You know this is the kind of stuff that prevents me from diving too deep into there tech and products. I love flutter but I'm scared about its fate. Flutter, Dart, Fuchsia these are some great technologies but they might end up in bin some day. In the end, I tell myself, I'm just a user. Imagine what must be the state of developers who spent years working on t…

This is why we need truly distributed webapps rather than monolithic tied-to-domain apps. Doing this right is a hard problem and many of current solutions are still essentially centralized despite their reliance on certain aspects of P2P.

Open standards are superior to the complexity of distributed webapps. I can port my Gmail account to Fastmail with a few clicks. There's no lock in with my email data. I can put my mail anywhere! That should be the goal of all hosted data; portability, so you're never beholden to a SaaS provider.

Re: Google is killing Fabric in mid-2019, pushes developers to Firebase

#20

Post by bluehazed »

rch wrote: post #17
rohan1024 wrote: post #11

Dammit not inbox. I've been using it since the beginning. You know this is the kind of stuff that prevents me from diving too deep into there tech and products. I love flutter but I'm scared about its fate. Flutter, Dart, Fuchsia these are some great technologies but they might end up in bin some day. In the end, I tell myself, I'm just a user. Imagine what must be the state of developers who spent years working on t…

These things come and go. One could have been just as wrong to focus on Silverlight, OpenSolaris, SmallTalk, etc, etc, etc, or even your own company's ABI.... And is it really wrong to spend a couple of years becoming an expert Plan 9 user just because it doesn't take over the world? I still think it's all (mostly) time well spent.

It is never a waste of time to become a Plan 9 user!
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