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Re: Android

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I use a Nexus One as my daily phone since it came out in January, and it's hard to say whether Android software/hardware experience will ever catch up to Apple's standard. The touchscreen on the iPhone is state of the art, with my N1, I need to touch something once or twice, which never happens with iPhone. Same for keyboard on the iPhone, it's light years better than any of the dozens implementations for Android. I…

Have you tried Swype?

I have, yes. I still prefer the iPhone keyboard.

Re: Android

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Because there were hundreds of Windows machines whereas there was only a few variations of Macintosh, all controlled by the same company and priced at a premium.

By this formula, one ought to have been bullish about PlaysForSure--a platform with over a dozen music stores and compatible player devices from almost two dozen vendors. But we saw what happened there: the platform was beaten by a single store with a few variations of player all controlled by the same company and priced at a premium.

Neither example is strongly predictive, but I think this one is a bit more relevant, for reasons which should be obvious.

Re: Android

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post #6

One thing I'd like to see is Android have more of a presence in universities. It'd give CS students useful exposure to mobile development and allow them to put all of the Java that gets crammed down their throats to good use.

Not quite what you are getting at, but a lot of university-led CS research uses Android. Android hits a sweet spot where it's easy to hack, but at the same time changes you make are relevant to millions of shipping devices. Security research in particular has a lot of fun with Android, because you can analyse the existing platform, then turn around and build your idea, then turn around and run it on real hardware without too much pain.

That does not, of course, necessarily filter into intro CS classes. I have seen a few "mobile development" classes in universities, but they seem to be split between iPhone and Android.

Re: Android

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post #6

One thing I'd like to see is Android have more of a presence in universities. It'd give CS students useful exposure to mobile development and allow them to put all of the Java that gets crammed down their throats to good use.

I teach the intro. to HCI course at a Canadian university. The course project includes the design and implementation of a mobile app. I'll be using this article as evidence that my students should develop for Android rather than the iPhone. Most would prefer to develop for the iPhone, and are taking steps to gain access to Macs and developer accounts for that purpose. This will be a nice push in the other direction.

It sounds like you wish to force your own platform preference on your students. I'm not sure how this article counts as evidence for anything other than one individual has convinced himself iPhone vs Android is going the same way as Mac vs Windows.

Re: Android

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post #40

I know of no Android tablet available in the $199 price range. Someone please point one out if one exists. The argument that Windows won because Macintosh was priced at a premium is a dubious argument. Apple is able to purchase flash memory, processors, and touch screens in bulk. They own Intrinisty and PA Semiconductor. Apple looks like Walmart on their supply side and looks like Barney's on the retail side. There i…

Looks like Archos has a 7 inch tablet that they sell for $199, though it doesn't have 3G access. Archos has been around for a while and are known to build fairly solid hardware, so this isn't some drive-by-night operation hawking crap on late-night informercial either. http://www.archos.com/products/ht/index.html?country=us&... edit: er, apparently it still runs android 1.5...

I still can't just walk in to major stores and get these. I can go to Apple stores, or Best Buy, and now target, to get an ipad (and Best Buy, AT&T, etc stores for iPhones). :(

And, yeah, you pointed out the 1.5 issue. Google needs to do a better job of getting Android licensees to update their versions. There should be no one selling a new device in October 2010 only running 1.5.

edit: I can't walk in to stores in my area. Some stores report they have some archos tablets, but they're generally not there when I go.

Re: Android

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't seen the Android docs, but for building an app with a GUI I genuinely can't think of anything better than the WinPhone7 SDK.

What do you think makes WP7 superior to Android? Please be as detailed as you can; this is not an argument, it's a feature request :-) A million lurking volunteers, bored but capable as they are, will take it upon themselves to improve Android before Google gets around to it (it's a vicious race for good hacks.)

Why do you believe this to be true? While the Linux desktop has improved incrementally over the years it has remained a good distance behind it's proprietary rivals.

Re: Android

#57
post #46

I have been debating fiddling wither win7 or android. What is a good android phone to test/develop with? Is the nexus still the best choice?

You can start hacking Android without a phone. The emulator is just cool :-)

The emulator is a dog. Compared to the iPhone anyways.

It's useless for web development.

Re: Android

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What Android tablet is he talking about? I don't know any comparable to the iPad.

Yeah, what a bogus argument. "What if I could give you an iPad-equivalent for just 99 cents? And if you act now, I'll throw in a free pony."

Why bogus? The question is completely valid. The article suggested there is something comparable to iPad, only running on Android and costing $200...while the current reality is that only comparable tablet is Samsung galaxy pad, which is not yet in the stores, and is priced higher than Android. And no, Archos isn't there yet.

Re: Android

#59
I hate when people cheer lead for one particular gigantic corporation to own the market History shows that isn't very good for consumers. Why not cheer lead for a healthy diverse market with lots of competition?

Re: Android

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post #40

I know of no Android tablet available in the $199 price range. Someone please point one out if one exists. The argument that Windows won because Macintosh was priced at a premium is a dubious argument. Apple is able to purchase flash memory, processors, and touch screens in bulk. They own Intrinisty and PA Semiconductor. Apple looks like Walmart on their supply side and looks like Barney's on the retail side. There i…

I know of no Android tablet available in the $199 price range. Someone please point one out if one exists.

I saw one in Bangkok. Cost about 4000 Baht and was from China. I didn't get one because there didn't seem to be any warranty for it and I don't live there, but it was pretty awesome to play with.

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